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Rebels take two Ukrainian Military Bases
UPI ^ | 6-3-2014 | Ed Adamczyk

Posted on 06/04/2014 11:47:39 AM PDT by tcrlaf

Pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine's Luhansk region forced the surrender of two military bases after heavy fighting -- a border guard base and a National Guard base. The Ukrainian border service announced personnel at its border base had been "redeployed to safer places" after sustained attacks.

The National Guard base sustained heavy fire, including assaults by rocket-propelled grenades and machine gun fire, after a demand to surrender was rejected, the National Guard said. Three National Guard soldiers were injured, and all the vehicles on the base were destroyed, as well as the base headquarters.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civilwar; luhansk; ukraine
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To: McGruff; All

Video of the shootdown of one of the Mi-24’s at Slovyansk today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iTsv-oJcUw


21 posted on 06/04/2014 2:03:14 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Grzegorz 246

“rebels” probably include “recent immigrants” from the Russian special forces.


22 posted on 06/04/2014 2:04:53 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: tcrlaf

Russians have already invaded, the border guards are just surrendering to allow more Russian forces in I guess


23 posted on 06/04/2014 2:07:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: tcrlaf; All

Yet another protest by Conscript parents in Lvov.

Pretty stark....

They are grabbing kids off the street in the West, and sending them off to fight in the East with almost nothing form training, calling them “Volunteers”, and then threatening them with 5 years in prison if they refuse to go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwAarAn7Q5E&list=UUdnB82ob_V7EXwwcCtB1vUg


24 posted on 06/04/2014 2:08:47 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

25 posted on 06/04/2014 2:16:02 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: tcrlaf

“Other news:”

Russian manufactured “news” actually.


26 posted on 06/04/2014 2:16:46 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: tcrlaf
They are grabbing kids off the street in the West, and sending them off to fight in the East with almost nothing form training, calling them “Volunteers”, and then threatening them with 5 years in prison if they refuse to go.

Propaganda.

27 posted on 06/04/2014 3:43:25 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: tcrlaf

The Maidan regime is doing its utmost to destroy a unified Ukrainian state. Its gang-pressing Western Ukrainians into a war to occupy an increasingly hostile eastern half of the country that its attempting to bomb into submission. It won’t work and the Maidan regime does not have the forces to reconquer eastern Ukraine. The country is headed for a breakup and none of that has anything to do with Russia. Kiev’s policies are completely self-defeating. If people were indifferent to the Maidan coup before, they’re positively hostile now. And killing every one in the east will not save Ukraine.


28 posted on 06/04/2014 3:53:44 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
“The country is headed for a breakup and none of that has anything to do with Russia. Kiev’s policies are completely self-defeating. If people were indifferent to the Maidan coup before, they’re positively hostile now.”

Poroshenko getting 55% and winning in all regions, except temporarily occupied territory of Crimea, is a clear sign that what you say is true. Now scroll up and look at Bob.

29 posted on 06/04/2014 4:01:09 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: FreeReign

LOL...
I’m sure all those parents in front of the Ukrainian officers in Lvov are “Paid Putinistas!”, right Baghdad Bob?


30 posted on 06/04/2014 4:08:09 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
They are grabbing kids off the street in the West...

LOL. Propaganda.

...threatening them with 5 years in prison if they refuse to go.

LOL. More propaganda.

31 posted on 06/04/2014 5:48:58 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

lol...
I love how easy it is to make a fool of you. You do a real disservice to your “cause”, but you don’t realize it.

About those kids being grabbed off the streets of Western Ukraine. There is also an Eglish captioned version of it floating around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoyVnWfCcjk


32 posted on 06/04/2014 5:54:23 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: FreeReign

Here is the English capped version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwAarAn7Q5E&list=UUdnB82ob_V7EXwwcCtB1vUg


33 posted on 06/04/2014 5:55:40 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
They are grabbing kids off the street in the West,

The word "kids" as you describe it usually refers to minors. They are not taking minors. That's your lie number one.

...and sending them off to fight in the East with almost nothing form training,...

The location "East" as you describe it usually refers to Donetsk and Luhansk. Their orders are apparently to Dnepropetrovsk. That's your lie number two. And they are apparently going to a training center. So when you say they are going off to fight without "almost nothing form(sic) training", that's your lie number three.

That's three lies in one of your sentences which is all I had time for. I'm sure I could find more.

So easy to document you making a liar out of yourself.

34 posted on 06/04/2014 6:36:36 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

lol...
You are such a fool...
If you had FINISHED the video, you’d see where the officer is asked about that, and he says they will be sent to combat, after Dnep.

Keep it up, kid. This is like shooting fish in a barrel.


35 posted on 06/04/2014 6:41:29 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: FreeReign

PS- I consider these to be “kids”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSIdOpI9Xqk&feature=youtu.be


36 posted on 06/04/2014 6:42:20 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
lol... You are such a fool... If you had FINISHED the video, you’d see where the officer is asked about that, and he says they will be sent to combat, after Dnep.

I never said that they weren't going to Donestk or Luhansk AFTER training. So that's your lie number four. And I did finish the video which contradicts your lie number five.

That's two sentences of yours that I've responded to that contain five lies.

You are such a liar.

And BTW you are the one who had to resort to initiating personal attack in this conversation, so in addition to your five lies let the record show that you needed to initiate personal attack.

LOL.

37 posted on 06/04/2014 6:59:03 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: tcrlaf
...and then threatening them with 5 years in prison if they refuse to go.

BTW, do you know the penalty for avoiding the draft is in Russia?

38 posted on 06/04/2014 7:04:59 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: McGruff

Thanks for posting that...I saw one where the parents came to pick up their son...(he was already in the active fight zone )....the kid broke down when he saw his parents.

Most of these kids are fast track trained and sent out.....they have zero combat experience and Kiev Gov. is putting them in a war!....They’re doing this because they have no experienced replacements, (spoken last week, again, by one of their commanders). You can bet Kiev is “buying” militias and any who will fight.

Kiev Gov. is committing so many war crimes it’s a wonder they aren’t being brought up by the Geneva Council....as what they are doing by bombing their own nations citizen is against the Geneva and international Laws.


39 posted on 06/04/2014 8:40:51 PM PDT by caww
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To: McGruff; tcrlaf

Kiev Gov. has confirmed two Nat’l Guard border bases fell to Donbass Self_defense in Lugansk and Sverdlovsk...Border Guards understood from Kiev Gov. they were on their own with no help from Kiev so they drove off and met up with family members on the road back...video shows them leaving and meeting up with families

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sql9SHTGeBE&feature=youtu.be


40 posted on 06/04/2014 10:01:56 PM PDT by caww
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