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Police: Driver mows down victims after argument in Baltimore
WBAL ^ | May 29, 2014 | Saliqa Khan

Posted on 05/29/2014 6:10:52 AM PDT by csvset

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To: PapaBear3625
Deaer PapaBear3625,

I think management takes a pretty lenient line on the issue. Discussion of actual facts, actual research, actual data, is generally going to pass muster. It is merely an observation that there are group racial differences in the measurement of IQ. It is merely reciting state and federal crime statistics to note that blacks commit violent crimes at a higher rate than non-blacks.

But these two posters weren't presenting facts or arguing therefrom. The first poster devalued the lives of two human beings based on their skin color. That's just good old fashion racism. The second poster chimed in with a term (that I'd frankly never seen before) that put black people on par with lower primates. Again, just pure racism. No attempt to construct a logical argument to make a point, just a show of racial animus.

Sometimes, things can be close to the line. These two weren't anywhere near it.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.


sitetest

81 posted on 05/29/2014 8:29:05 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: PapaBear3625
However, it's getting hard to know where the line is.

I am not a fan of the "Amish" meme - by now it's been done to death.

For me the line is crossed when one leaves off pointing out factual data and descends to advocate or approve of harm coming upon a specific group simply because they are a part of that group. And yes, I would include call for the obliteration of all Muslims in that. (I have to fight with myself very hard on that one.

Yesterday, we had a thread in which approval was expressed for aborting black babies. That was quickly dealt with as over the line.

82 posted on 05/29/2014 8:31:53 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: driftdiver; DCBryan1

I never saw the comments, but both are gone now. Doc Savage has had many replies removed lately.


83 posted on 05/29/2014 8:33:34 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: sitetest

Spot on. I am still boggled that two 98’ers could have expressed such vile thoughts. How did they contain that for all those years?


84 posted on 05/29/2014 8:35:41 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

Pointing out the factual data about a group’s behavioral propensities is not at all a call for harm to come to that group.

It’s a futile (IMO) attempt to shame that group into changing its cultural values such that these negative behavioral propensities become less ubiquitous within that group.


85 posted on 05/29/2014 8:37:28 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
Pointing out the factual data about a group’s behavioral propensities is not at all a call for harm to come to that group.

I did not say it was.

86 posted on 05/29/2014 8:38:58 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o
Dear don-o,

“How did they contain that for all those years?”

Times are tough. If you keep your eyes open, it's clear that as bad as things were, they're getting worse. It's hard to avoid bitterness and anger.

All we can do is pray harder.


sitetest

87 posted on 05/29/2014 8:39:08 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: csvset

Very sad, two needless deaths and Miss Mints will now spend many years honing her criminal skills in jessup or hagerstown on the taxpayers expense.


88 posted on 05/29/2014 8:39:46 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: PapaBear3625
There's a lot here that goes over "my" line but doesn't go over Jim Rob's line, and I accept that as a reality. Some of it is rough humor, some of it is hostile generalization partly (or not) rooted in statistical probability.

Generalizations arising from fact0based evidence may be hard to hear, and may be open to refutation, also based on fact. Adult people of good will and active intelligence can handle that.

But wishing some innocent fellow human being's death --- or being "OK" with their death ---- because of race, skin color, national origin, class, or religion, that is just vile animus, genuine racism/bigotry in its most morally objectionable form.

It's not just "offensive" as a matter of personal style: it's morally depraved, evidence of a corrupt mind.

89 posted on 05/29/2014 8:45:10 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.")
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To: Jarhead9297

“Something I’ve also noticed is one cannot have a differing viewpoint that expresses a controversial view without bringing Jim into the fray.”

So it’s okay with you what was said in posts 5 and 7?
There is such a thing as community guidelines and decorum you know.
Oh, welcome to FR.


90 posted on 05/29/2014 9:08:00 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Jarhead9297

>>>I’m with you on this one. While why we said is detestable we are no different then DU if we begin yanking comments because it is “offensive”. In fact I detest the use of the term offensive. This crap has made us a mambie pambie group of pathetic groveling infants.
I’ll take my marbles and go home now<<<

Offensive is one thing, saying it is a good that innocent people, including a 2 year old toddler were murdered is sick and twisted.

The sickos who posted that have a right to express their opinions, but this is Jim Robinson’s house and his moderators have the right to tell them to take it elsewhere.

The house rules are right there in front of us each time we make a reply:

“Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.”


91 posted on 05/29/2014 9:16:58 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Well said!


92 posted on 05/29/2014 9:17:35 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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To: Jarhead9297

“That is fine and good but we are then no different then any other sites that imposes free speech limitations.”

You don’t understand what private property is, do you?
You sound like those TBL morons who shrieked about “free speech” while trolling here.
This forum is privately owned, thus the owner can decide what goes on at their property.
Example, I can’t go to your house, drop a deuce on your coffee table and shriek “free speech” any time I want and STAY THERE without consequence, can I?


93 posted on 05/29/2014 9:21:36 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

Thank you.


94 posted on 05/29/2014 9:25:11 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.")
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I joined back in 99 or 2000 under absolutejustice then stopped for awhile...very aware of site and been around for quite a long time. I left Newb status as you call it my 1st year in the Corps back in 92


95 posted on 05/29/2014 9:25:59 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Jarhead9297

So you’re a retread.


96 posted on 05/29/2014 9:29:27 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Jarhead9297

“very aware of site and been around for quite a long time.”

If that were true, then you’d know that your talking points in posts 54 and 60 were pure BS.


97 posted on 05/29/2014 9:32:40 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: JimRed

Not very difficult really and if we were truly a location of free speech as expressed as stupid as what is said then let the oppossing views stand. We can police our own off the forums. I don’t like the stifling of free speech of any sort and those self ascribed “Conservatives” need to check their cards if “offensive” speech they dictate as such is stifled. How were non chritians converted? By listening and convincing the opposing viewpoints that yours are more correct. In this situation we’ve shut that conversation down before it even began. That’s my only point, allow for the free flow of ideas I think the adults can weed it out.


98 posted on 05/29/2014 9:33:18 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Jarhead9297

“Not very difficult really and if we were truly a location of free speech as expressed as stupid as what is said then let the oppossing views stand. “

FR is a CONSERVATIVE forum, we don’t need to allow racist views or liberal viewpoints voice or space.
You want a p[lace for that?
Go to TBL, DU, or stormfront.


99 posted on 05/29/2014 9:35:10 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Darksheare

As you dictate sure...there are some in agreement.I’m not here to convince you it obviously won’t happen. I am merely expressing the desire to take people like this to task in an open forum and allow for a back and forth. These are the type of people to convince their line of thinking is flawed. If they choose not to agree then we move on but I’d at least like to see what angers the individual so much so they harbor bad and racist feelings


100 posted on 05/29/2014 9:37:50 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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