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To: Seizethecarp
I'm one of those who believes that Snowden provided a great service to the US. Until his disclosures happened, anyone under the age of 40 (or so) had no concern about how much the gov spies on every citizen.

The cynicism about Obama and his administration can lead to the election of a constitutional conservative president, if the RINO backstabbers stop treating us as the enemy.

Snowden is a patriot. He gave up a comfortable life when he exposed the NSA for what it is.

11 posted on 05/28/2014 8:05:17 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

I agree. The NSA and our gummint needed to be called out on their overreach. 10 years ago I wouldn’t have said that but enough is enough. As to whether he was a spy? Not so sure.


12 posted on 05/28/2014 8:11:11 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: grania

AGREED


13 posted on 05/28/2014 8:14:42 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: grania

“Snowden is a patriot”

That’s warped. He hates this country.


14 posted on 05/28/2014 8:15:15 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: grania

Once he went beyond talking about what the NSA was doing to our citizenry and he went and spillled shit about how we were handling intelligence internationally, he stepped into treason.

F him.


15 posted on 05/28/2014 8:17:33 AM PDT by dmz
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To: grania

I wouldn’t call him a patriot-probably a really pissed off employee turned whistleblower-and he exposed something that finally got a lot of people focused on their rights, which is a very good thing.

I’m sure Snowden wants to be out of Russia any way he can as long as it doesn’t involve death or imprisonment-it is cold and spartan there, especially since Putin pulls the strings-it is much warmer and likely friendlier someplace in S. America...

But unless this is some alternate universe, he was not a spy anywhere but in his own fantasies...


24 posted on 05/28/2014 8:27:47 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: grania

I for one agree with you completely. Government snooping has gone way beyond what the founding fathers could have even imagined. If one doesn’t believe that the Obama administration is using covert info collected in the name of fighting terrorism for political purposes they are complete fools. What real sacrifices have the Nancy Boys calling for Snowden’s head... made to ensure that our kids and grandkids will be living in a free republic? In most cases... absolutely nothing!

All it takes for our freedom to go away is for those of us who know better to stand idly by while tyranny takes over. Mr. Snowden found himself in a position where he was able to help bring these abuses to the attention of patriots everywhere. And we have all these one dimensional thinkers calling for his head? What type of fantasy world are they living in?


25 posted on 05/28/2014 8:28:24 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: grania

“Snowden is a patriot. He gave up a comfortable life when he exposed the NSA for what it is”

Disagree.

He is a coward and a traitor.

If he was truly concerned he could have run it up the chain, taken it to the IG, and if that didn’t work, to his Senator or Congressman (probably the best avenue).

He didn’t try any of that.

He ran.

He didn’t stand there bravely and take the spears for his “courage.”

A patriot means not backing down, being willing to pay the price for standing on your principles and for protecting the rights of Americans.

Heck, if he just stayed and acted like a man and bravely took his hits for releasing to the press I could respect him for that.

Instead, he ran and is now living comfortably in Russia.

Being a patriot does not mean running away and cowering with sworn enemies.


31 posted on 05/28/2014 8:42:14 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: grania

“I’m one of those who believes that Snowden provided a great service to the US. Until his disclosures happened, anyone under the age of 40 (or so) had no concern about how much the gov spies on every citizen.”

If you get a paperback copy of the 1982 book “The Puzzle Palace” you will find that US citizens who had been able to escape being fed “news” and “history” by the MSM already knew or strongly suspected or could project in broad terms most of Snowden’s revelations as new technology has come available.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Puzzle_Palace

IMO Snowden is profoundly naïve or a traitorous double agent who is being too cute by half. “I accidentally ended up first in China and then in Russia on the way to Venezuela by way of Cuba.”


32 posted on 05/28/2014 8:44:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: grania

Here is a book that you will find very interesting, “Black List” by Brad Thor.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-List-Thriller-Brad-Thor/dp/1439192987/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0

“All of the technology contained in this novel is based upon systems currently being deployed, or in the final stages of development, by the United States government and its partners.”

... and thus begins `Black List’ by Brad Thor.


33 posted on 05/28/2014 8:45:01 AM PDT by COUNTrecount (There's no there there.)
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To: grania

in full agreement with you.


34 posted on 05/28/2014 8:45:05 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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