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To: Mr Rogers

‘What happens in Massachusetts stays in Massachusetts’.
Does not apply to all other states.


81 posted on 05/27/2014 10:52:06 AM PDT by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44 (22 Yr, Navy Vet))
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To: Huskerfan44

Actually, it DOES apply since it shows how the terms were thought of at the time by some of the people who actually voted to ratify the US Constitution. That is pretty good evidence of ‘original intent’...


82 posted on 05/27/2014 11:06:12 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: Huskerfan44
‘What happens in Massachusetts stays in Massachusetts’.
Does not apply to all other states.

It snuck out of Massachussett to Vermont as well. The Vermont Constitution of 1777 also used "natural born subject" interchangeably with "natural born citizen:"

SECTION XXXVIII. Every foreigner of good character, who comes to settle in this State, having first taken an oath or affirmation of allegiance to the same, may purchase, or by other just means acquire, hold, and transfer, land or other real estate; and after one years residence, shall be deemed a free denizen thereof, and intitled to all the rights of a natural born subject of this State; except that he shall not be capable of being elected a representative, until after two years residence.

In the period leading up to drafting of the U.S. Constitution, there was no use in English of the term "natural born" where it meant "from like parents." As pointed out earlier on this thread, the first English translation of Vattel using "NBC" (instead of "indigenes") wasn't produced until a decade later. It's not plausible to maintain the Framers used the term "natural born," but intended a meaning not previously used, and that they did this while leaving no record of discussion that a new meaning was being adopted.

91 posted on 06/01/2014 10:59:15 AM PDT by CpnHook
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