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To: SeekAndFind
We lost that argument when, a couple of generations ago, we deconstrudcted the essential elements of Natural Marriage:

We destroyed the particularity of natural marriage by winking at premarital sex.

We destroyed the stability of natural marriage by OK'ing easy, even no-fault divorce.

We destroyed the procreativity of natural marriage by accepting contraception, sterilization and abortion.

We destroyed the paternal significance of natural marriage by expanding the state to fill the role of the husband, making provision by actual men, husbands/fathers, redundant.

"Natural marriage" has been smashed to the pavement --- by heterosexuals -- and consists of a broken chassis and a scattering of shiny bits.

So now that there's nothing left of "natural marriage" except two adults registering their self-centered self-gratifying coupledom, there's no rational reason why they can't sift through the wreckage and pick out the fragments: the cake, the reception, the honeymoon, the bits they like.

11 posted on 05/20/2014 12:50:15 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stet.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
We lost that argument when, a couple of generations ago, we deconstrudcted the essential elements of Natural Marriage:

Sorry, but I've never lost that argument and I do not intend to quit fighting.
14 posted on 05/20/2014 12:52:33 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Excellent points!
Excellent post!
BOOM!


15 posted on 05/20/2014 12:52:37 PM PDT by spankalib ("I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
We lost that argument when, a couple of generations ago, we deconstrudcted the essential elements of Natural Marriage:

Mrs. Don-o, I'm totally stealing every point of this post! VERY WELL SAID!! Bravo!

19 posted on 05/20/2014 12:56:47 PM PDT by McBuff
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To: Mrs. Don-o

That was a surrender statement, not accurate either.

It doesn’t cover the change in the voters of America through immigration and how that has empowered the left, and the modern democrat party, and America, which is what is making American law what it is, as traditional Americans continue to vote mostly as they were voting 200 years ago.

I wonder if you are aware of the first crisis in marriage in America, it was one reason the republican party was formed, in the 1850s.


22 posted on 05/20/2014 1:09:43 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Very good. Another way we destroyed marriage?

By declaring it was of no business to the government. That it was only a religious concern and the State should butt out.


30 posted on 05/20/2014 1:33:33 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I have to respectfully disagree. The argument was lost when government got involved and was made the ultimate authority on marriage. This is the perfect example of social conservatives gone wrong.

Supposedly small government “conservatives” set up a system of government authority using laws and rules derived by politicians to provide special benefits to those who engage in what is essentially a special interest activity. And now that the authority is used by opponents of marriage to destroy it, “conservatives” cry foul.

Government should have no role in marriage. Why does one need the blessing of government for the joining of two people before God?

The domestic court system and the rules and laws the govern marriage in this country are corrupt. And like all corrupt systems they eventually fail.


35 posted on 05/20/2014 2:04:56 PM PDT by Honcho
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Completely agree on all counts...and would add, we destroyed the reverence for natural marriage by forgetting that law is based on morals, not “fairness”. And, the morals the US was founded on came from the Scriptures...not Darwin.


38 posted on 05/20/2014 2:52:52 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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