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1 posted on 05/19/2014 7:02:08 AM PDT by Fennie
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Carney said the United States takes no position on the territorial claims, but, “We do take a position on the conduct of the claimants who must resolve their disputes peacefully, without intimidation, without coercion, and in accordance with international law.”

Bet that scares China.

47 posted on 05/19/2014 7:56:25 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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This did not go well for the ChiComs the last time.


48 posted on 05/19/2014 7:57:21 AM PDT by Magnum44 (I have had just about enough)
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Opening moves by the CHICOMs that will, based on the US response, end with the conquest of Nationalist China.


49 posted on 05/19/2014 7:57:43 AM PDT by AU72
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They would not strop at VietNam

Taiwan would be their ultimate goal. Cambodia would be an afterthought.

Not Thailand (yet) I think, those people are the sweetest and nicest in the world until you insult their king or piss off the buddhist monks


51 posted on 05/19/2014 8:05:55 AM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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Damn. Obama couldn’t handle one crisis, let alone two.


52 posted on 05/19/2014 8:07:12 AM PDT by Viennacon
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Good post.

Two dictatorial regimes headed for war, it seems.

This is a tremendous opportunity for the US to covertly side with Vietnam. Don't count on that happening.

53 posted on 05/19/2014 8:09:30 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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The last time the Chinese mounted a punitive expedition against Vietnam, they sent green troops against seasoned Vietnamese combat forces. The Chinese infantry were decimated, so they fell back and relied on artillery duels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War


54 posted on 05/19/2014 8:10:28 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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China-Vietnam Border War, 30 Years Later

http://content.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1879849_1846233,00.html


55 posted on 05/19/2014 8:14:56 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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This is really a bad situation. China is flexing it’s muscle as often as possible these days. They see a week and feckless American leader, who represents the weakness and stupidity of it’s and increasingly uninformed and stupid people. As we are preoccupied with an economy in general malaise, they invest heavily in the weaponry and tactics necessary to become a major power. One that is not interested in trade and economic benefit, but in regional and global domination.

The Chinese Communist puppet masters had already convinced Bill Clinton and the idiot American Corporatists that “Most Favored Nation Status” in economic terms would not be a one way street. It most certainly has benefitted ONE nation highly over the Other and that one is China.

Now that our desire for cheap labor and profit has given them the money to buy our debt and in turn our interest payments have been used to expand their military. All the while they have mined our top corporations and Universities for the knowledge necessary to create a First World military writ large with 50,000,000 excess men. Out of a population of 1,341,335,152: 696,340,752 are male and 644,994,400 are female for a 1.08 to 1 ration.

They have 50,000,000 more men than women, think about the ramifications of that one child policy for fifty years. 50,000,000 more men than women of fighting age with nothing to do with their dicks but pull them and look longingly to neighboring countries like cave men with the biggest stick in the neighborhood. They want the natural resources and power that come with it and the Communist Vietnamese are simply the same Vietnamese they have attempted to dominate for the past three millennia regardless of political beliefs.

The problem is only getting worse since as of 2010 there where 1.18 boys born to every girl born. This is almost a twenty percent larger population of boys to girls and the trend of greater male to female birth rates is only expanding, not shrinking.

This is a real problem.


60 posted on 05/19/2014 8:28:21 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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I would urge Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, the Phillipians, Indonesia and Vietnam to form an alliance. Quickly.

Combined, they have less than half the population of China. But combined, they have greater resources.


66 posted on 05/19/2014 8:57:57 AM PDT by kidd
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China is everybody’s good neighbor! They even landed a platoon of troops across India’s border. The whole East Asia region seems to be at a boiling point with territory disputes everywhere between China and a host of nations.

Does South Korea, Japan, Vietnam, India, Australia, Taiwan or anybody else opposed to Red China have some sort of a defense pact?


68 posted on 05/19/2014 9:05:20 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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I got to go to Kroger and get lots of Orville....The NV are sneaky little creatures. The Chinese will initially make gains and then they will suffer.


71 posted on 05/19/2014 9:14:29 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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Vietnam has a very long history of war against invading Chinese. The recent claims of the Chinese over some islands near Vietnam which may hold oil reserves have exacerbated old memories of enmity.


72 posted on 05/19/2014 9:27:24 AM PDT by wildbill
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One netizen said the Chinese military was taking the train from the Chongzuo station to Pingxiang City, which shares a 60-mile border with Vietnam.

Uh...Pingxiang City is about 400 miles away from the border.

75 posted on 05/19/2014 9:46:22 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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From the comments at the link:

10 invasions of China into Vietnam. One can argue that China under the ruler of the Mongolians were more powerful (since the Mongols were unmatched by anyone) than the China now. The Yuan mount a full scale invasion into Vietnam 3 times and lost all 3 times.

938 China invaded Vietnam – China lost
980 China invaded Vietnam – China lost
1075 China invaded Vietnam – China lost
1257 China under Mongolia invaded Vietnam – China lost (Mongolian was the world’s only super power at this time)
1284 China under Mongolia invaded Vietnam – China lost (Kublai Khan’s son was also killed in battle)
1287 China under Mongolia invaded Vietnam – China lost (failed to avenge the death of Kublai Khan’s son)
1407 China invaded Vietnam at request of surviving Tran ruler after usurp of throne – China won with the help of internal fighting from loyal base of previous ruler. China promised to restore previous ruler but instead annex Vietnam.
1428 Vietnam regained independence by defeating China
1788 China invaded Vietnam – China lost
1979 China invaded Vietnam – China lost

What's key here is that the Vietnamese are raring to fight, in a way that Ukrainians (and Russians) are not. If war breaks out, we should send the Vietnamese all the mothballed Warsaw Pact equipment and munitions we can scrounge up from the NATO countries that were part of the Eastern Bloc. Ideally, they will give the Chinese a bloody nose and give pause to the expansionist impulse that has been characteristic of the Chinese Empire for 2000-odd years.
76 posted on 05/19/2014 9:46:36 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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China wants to drill for oil off the coast of Vietnam.

China Insists It Has Right to Put Rig off Vietnam - ABC News
abcnews.go.com › International

ABC News

May 7, 2014 - China insisted Thursday it had every right to drill for oil off Vietnam’s coast ... Vietnam’s main stock market index recorded its biggest one-day drop ... general of the department of Boundary and Ocean Affairs of China’s Foreign Ministry. ...


77 posted on 05/19/2014 9:59:07 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obama cannot divert resources from his war on Americans!)
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Just another consequence of having a weak U.S. President that the world just laughs at.

China KNOWS they can do whatever they want, and there won’t be any serious consequence for it. and Japan knows they are also on their own, as long as Obama is in office.

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News You Won’t Be Seeing on the NBC Evening News.
(It makes Obama look weak again)


83 posted on 05/19/2014 10:21:36 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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LEADING_FROM_BEHIND_PING!


84 posted on 05/19/2014 10:29:12 AM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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Hey Obama, the 1960’s called. They want their foreign policy back!


85 posted on 05/19/2014 10:33:07 AM PDT by samiam5
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China 2014 = Japan 1934
Vietnam 2014 = China 1934

Same old crap, different actors, different era...


92 posted on 05/19/2014 11:16:58 AM PDT by GraceG
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