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There were no “Palestinians” back in 1948. They were called Arabs. And the name “Palestine” will be obliterated forever one day.
1 posted on 05/15/2014 4:35:14 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

FREEPERS HISTORY OF THE “CRISIS”
ALMOST 1950:
Israel asks: “Will you become Israelis (like 20+% of Israel today) no matter your faith? If so stay where you are. (Israel has two official languages like Canada...)
IF NOT
“We will PAY YOU for your homes and you can make war against us. We will give you safe passage...”
“Palestinian” (Jordanian) answers: “GIVE ME THE MONEY JEW BITCH”
So he gets the money and wages war... Once Twice... Thrice...
THEN:
40... 50... 60 years on:
“GIVE ME MY HOUSE JEW BITCH!”
Americans on college campuses echo:
“GIVE BACK THE LAND JEW BITCH!”
Kerry: “GIVE LAND, GIMME NOBEL JEW BITCH...”
/END HISTORY LESSON


2 posted on 05/15/2014 4:42:53 AM PDT by golux
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To: Olog-hai

The AP source is named Mohammed.

You are correct, Palestine and Palestinians will be obliterated.

It feels close, but I really can’t say, feelings are unreliable. This crap with the heathens could go on for decades. That I think it won’t is irrelevant.


3 posted on 05/15/2014 4:44:49 AM PDT by the anti-mahdi
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To: Olog-hai

A Homeland for the Palestinians?

The need and justification of a “Palestinian homeland” has been repeated so often and so insistently that people all over the world have come to accept it as an inevitability. That “homeland,” it is generally agreed, would consist of the Gaza Strip and most of Judea/Samaria, generally referred to as the “West Bank.” Even many good people in the U.S. and even our president, a well-intentioned man, advocate a “homeland,” a Palestinian state, at the end of the so-called “road map.”?

What are the facts?

An unwarranted request. There is no such thing as a “Palestinian people.” That is a concept that, by the drumbeat of incessant propaganda, has been foisted on the world. The so-called Palestinians are the same Arabs that live in Syria, Jordan and Lebanon. Never at any time in history did the “Palestinians” have a homeland, nor did they ever demand one.

In 1947, the United Nations General Assembly voted to set up both a Jewish and an Arab state within the borders of the territories. The Arabs were allotted three contiguous areas and the enclave of the city of Jaffa. The Jews were allotted three discontiguous areas. Jerusalem was to be an international city. In order to get their homeland, the Jews reluctantly accepted the unfavorable deal. The Arabs rejected it out of hand and instead invaded the nascent Jewish state with the armies of six nations. The ragtag Jewish forces decisively defeated the aggressors and stayed in control of most of the area. Egypt retained control of the Gaza Strip, and Jordan occupied Judea/Samaria (the “West Bank”). Had the Arabs accepted the United Nations partition plan, they would have had their “Palestinian homeland” for almost 60 years. They spurned the opportunity when it was available to them.

For nineteen years, until the Six-Day War, the territories involved were under the control of Jordan and Egypt. Never during those years was there ever a demand for a “Palestinian homeland.” Only after the Six-Day War in 1967, when the territories reverted to Israeli control, did the insistent clamor for a “Palestinian homeland” arise.

Although the Israelis would probably be glad to get rid of those bothersome and rebellious people, it is regrettably not that simple. The declared goal of the Arabs, a goal never rescinded, is the destruction of Israel. Were they granted an independent state, it would geographically and strategically dominate all of Israel. Within a very short time, this “Palestinian homeland” would be bristling with the most advanced weaponry, in all likelihood including weapons of mass destruction. Arab armies would be invited to participate in what they would hope to be the final onslaught against Israel and against the hated Jews.

How about other nationalities that yearn for a homeland, for their own state? There are first of all the Basques, the vast majority of whom live in the northern region of Spain. They are a unique people, with a language and a culture that has no relationship to anything else in the world. They have been fighting to become liberated. But Spain – most vociferous in the promotion of a “Palestinian homeland” – refuses that. An independent Basque homeland would not endanger Spain in any way. But does the world, does the UN support the Basques in their quest for independence? Of course not!

Or take the Kurds. They are a distinct group. They live in a land that is part of Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Syria, and Armenia. They have been fighting for independence for centuries, but it has never been granted. An independent Kurdestan would not endanger the countries that now occupy it. But does the world, does the UN support the Kurds in their quest for independence? Of course not!

And then there are the Tibetans. They are a distinct people, unique in language and religion. They have been annexed by China, which has flooded the country with its “settlers.” The Chinese are fully in the process of making Tibet into an integral part of China. Clearly, an independent Tibet would not be any existential threat to China. But does the world, does the UN support the Tibetans in their quest for independence? Of course not!

The quest for an independent homeland for the Palestinians is unwarranted because the Palestinians are not a distinct people which never had or even claimed such a homeland, and because the creation of such a homeland would be an existential threat to Israel. Both the world and especially the Europeans don’t really care about self-determination – they don’t lose any sleep over the Basques, the Kurds, the Tibetans or others who yearn for a homeland. They care about their own political and economic interests, which they cloak in the language of political morality. And of course, there are quite a few who wouldn’t shed a tear if, at the end of the day, Israel were indeed wiped from the face of the earth.

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4 posted on 05/15/2014 4:46:14 AM PDT by petercooper ("I was for letting people keep their health insurance, before I wasn't". --- Barack Obama)
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To: Olog-hai
1948, hmmm, isn't that about the time that the Sudetens got kicked out of Czechoslovakia, half of Poland was displaced, and East Prussia ceased to exist?

Wonder why we don't have small enclaves of Germans and Poles, living in crap enclaves, blowing things up and demanding to get their stuff back?

Of course, the difference is that the Palestinians left voluntarily in 1948, so that the Jews could all be more neatly slaughtered by the invading Arab armies, with the assurance that they could come back to collect the spoils after the killing was done. Unfortunately for them, they chose poorly.

The Israeli mistake was in not pushing them all into Egypt and Jordan before sealing the border.

10 posted on 05/15/2014 5:05:30 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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12 posted on 05/15/2014 5:14:09 AM PDT by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we donÂ’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: Olog-hai

IMO the origin of the name Palestinians is me-toosim based on jealousy of Israel by Arabs in the region, especially after seeing the flourishing of the Jewish state in stark contrast to the relative squalor among Palestinkians who have been too preoccupied with destroying Israel and committing acts of terrorism against it to work diligently to improve their lot. Of course the surest course to that improvement would be a fair and comprehensive peace settlement with Israel, with mutual assured security, which will never happen.


15 posted on 05/15/2014 6:00:43 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: Olog-hai

Just a reminder: the establishment of a Jewish State in 1948 was a British (who had been given authority over the region by the United Nations) decree, and in precise (to the date)fulfillment of Biblical prophecy.


17 posted on 03/16/2015 6:48:37 AM PDT by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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