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They have their deceptive talking points on display here and don't be deceived. Heroin legalization is what they have wanted all along.

Nothing is what it seems. The "war on drugs" is a farce.

1 posted on 05/12/2014 8:12:34 AM PDT by mgist
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Government complicity is blatant. The US government didn’t just provide the Sinaloa cartel with an arsenal of weapons. They launder money for them, they protect them, and they have agreements for trafficking.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-government-and-the-sinaloa-cartel-2014-1?tru=K5shs#ixzz2qKIChGE2

“Drug War? American Troops Are Protecting Afghan Opium. U.S. Occupation Leads to All-Time High Heroin
Production.”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/drug-war-american-troops-are-protecting-afghan-opium-u-s-occupation-leads-to-all-time-high-heroin-production/5358053

Obama’s bizarre use of the American military to support the Muslim Brotherhood, has been well documented by famed author Seymour Hersch.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line

It isn’t so bizarre when you remember that the Muslim Brotherhood is cartel for the $multi Billion heroin trade.

It is consistent with the Justice Departments support of murderous Sinaloa cartels, providing dangerous criminals with an arsenal of weapons in Fast and Furious, was just of many offenses by the Justice Department.

Wall Street banks are laundering $billions, and are also complicit with the cartels, and they act with impunity.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/03/us-bank-mexico-drug-gangs

They all have blood on their hands. Many children won’t stand a chance. Take care of your families. Semper Vigilus.


2 posted on 05/12/2014 8:13:38 AM PDT by mgist (.)
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Legalization of Heron would be a pro muslim pro afghan law. This would not only combine the Obama death panels but also further the muslim jehad to kill Americans.
3 posted on 05/12/2014 8:15:46 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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The WOD also make possible avenues of political corruption not possible without it. From bribes to keep cops and agents away to campaign donations to take pressure off to pure graft and coercion.

However total legalization has some un-thought out and still undiscussed consequences. For example what would this policy do to the economy of legal medicines? If everything is legal, is anything legal? Can I stock up on Oxy for when my back hurts? Can I use experimental drugs to treat my late stage cancer? What becomes of the FDA approval process?

The thing that makes pot different from hard drugs (and alcohol) is that it is probably impossible to take a fatal dose.


8 posted on 05/12/2014 8:27:48 AM PDT by The Free Engineer
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“Think of it as evolution in action.” — Jerry Pournelle

CC


9 posted on 05/12/2014 8:30:09 AM PDT by Captain Compassion
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The goal is to get younger and younger kids on drugs then profit from them as they slide down the slippery slope.

Corruption at it's finest.

10 posted on 05/12/2014 8:31:22 AM PDT by sr4402
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Either we are Free, or we are slaves of the state!

We can't be both!

How dare you justify murdering US Citizens because of what drugs/medicine they choose to take!

Is it, or is it not perfectly legal to be addicted to opiates?

It is if you pay off all the king's men!

Is it, or is it not perfectly legal to be addicted to pharmaceutical amphetamines?

It is if you pay off all the king's men.


Justify again why you gladly promote a Nazi (Yes they kick in doors armed with machine guns and murder people) drug state!

T. Jefferson drafted our Constitution on Cannabis!

How evil was that?

11 posted on 05/12/2014 8:33:03 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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The Federal Government should sunset all drug laws in, say, 5 years. In our system the States are the places to deal with criminal matters.


13 posted on 05/12/2014 8:35:20 AM PDT by DManA
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In 1880 there were no drug laws in America and no serious drug problems. How bright do you really need to be to figure that one out??


15 posted on 05/12/2014 8:49:44 AM PDT by varmintman
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In drug raids, all they need to do is knock down the door with a battering ram, no romance necessary.

The 4th Amendment was sacrificed on the alter of the war on some drugs. Meanwhile, children are drugged in school (Ritalin), and adults complaining of "depression" get doctor prescribed acid trips with daily doses of Ambien.

Tell the doctor your back hurts and they give you "hillbilly heroin" (Oxycontin). Nanny state advocates will be the death of this nation.

16 posted on 05/12/2014 8:53:49 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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As the GOP becomes more “libertarian”, there will no longer be any major resistance to the left’s culture war.

Already they have managed to switch the argument from drugs, to a “drug war”, yet the issue is legalizing all drugs and their marketing and advertising, and future drugs and drug cocktails that drug labs can develop, not reining in how law enforcement works and operates.

B6. What is the libertarian position on the “drug war”?
“That all drugs should be legalized.”

“”We favor the repeal of all laws creating “crimes” without victims, such as the use of drugs for medicinal or recreational purposes.””


17 posted on 05/12/2014 8:56:10 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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I disagree... heroin, which I have never tried (I have actually taken no illegal drug before in my life, thanks, and I live in NC, and have never been to Colorado :)), is a relatively safe drug when administered in a controlled setting, if the product is only cut with safe fillers. It’s the closet and street addicts who have serious problems with the stuff, as in overdosing.

My take on the legalization of all the drugs, is go for it. Let survival of the fittest sort things out. I might would lose family members, even, but in the end, you will refine the gene poll to those who are either unaffected by taking the drugs, or those who can apply their reason and will to resisting the temptations that lead to addiction.

Our society is already leaning so far left due to the need to take care of those in our population who would naturally thinned themselves out in earlier times. A belief in God used to help folks moderate their behaviours, but as Government and the Left have pushed religion out of the public consciousness, the daredevils run free, along with free access to food and medical care whether it be in or out of prison. Given that is cheaper to deal with them out of prison, let’em go.

It’s either this or go all the way other way. Caught with drugs, and convicted, you die, no matter your age. Period.

China virtually eliminated Opium in their own country during the early communist era, by implementing that same policy: you’re caught with Opium, you die, simple as that. Cleared up their drug problem overnight.

But the in the middle prohibitionist stance only keeps drug trafficking, and all the branch underworld elements that stem from it, as workable and manageable problems for cartels and dealers to overcome. It also feeds the public fear necessary to continue the militarization of our civilian police force, further intrusions on our property rights, and lots of dumb people getting free stuff who will never change.


21 posted on 05/12/2014 9:17:20 AM PDT by Aqua225 (Realist)
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Sigh.

The irony is that if we were a moral and religious people, laws governing an individual’s peaceful behavior would not be necessary. But the left seeks to destroy all semblance of the moral guidelines of Christian society while facilitating the vilest of debaucheries The crime that results justifies greater control of the populace by government.


31 posted on 05/12/2014 9:56:11 AM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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they want no age limit either


32 posted on 05/12/2014 9:58:48 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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We’ve spent billions protecting fools from the Darwinian consequences of their personal choices and lost a good bit of the Constitution in the process. Screw ‘em; put a 55-gallon drum of heroin and/or crack on every street corner and wait six months. Problem solved and society improved.


42 posted on 05/12/2014 5:41:38 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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