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Assault rifles stolen from Chicago rail yard (Oh ooh)
wgntv ^ | May 9, 2014 | Tom Negovan

Posted on 05/10/2014 12:04:03 PM PDT by Red Steel

Armed and extremely dangerous. Some heavy weapons have fallen into the wrong hands in Chicago– and police desperately want to get them back.

Perhaps ironically, these semi-automatic rifles are very similar to what police themselves use. Thirteen of them were stolen from a train parked in Englewood– complete with their high-capacity 30-round magazines.

Special Agent Tom Ahern, ATF:“They’re high-capacity rifles. They’re very dangerous when they’re in the wrong hands.”

The Smith and Wesson M and P 15 Sport Rifle– virtually identical to the M-4 assault rifle U.S. troops use at war, police use to keep the peace; or citizens use to create chaos, in the AR-15 Bushmaster Incarnation. That’s the now-infamous weapon used in the massacre at sandy hook elementary school.

Sometime between Sunday and Tuesday, 13 of them were grabbed from a shipment of 50, from a Norfolk Southern freight container parked at this Englewood rail yard.

Community Activist Andrew Holmes: “I’m demanding that a thorough investigation be done and the security firm that’s here be removed until this case is resolved just in case this was an inside job.”

Investigators seem to feel otherwise, that the crooks had no idea what they were taking. It’s not a security firm that works here, but Norfolk Southern’s own police force, now working with Chicago police and the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms to get the guns back

They fire what’s known as a ‘NATO bullet’ essentially military caliber– 5.56 millimeter and while they don’t ship with those bullets; they do ship with magazines that carry 30 of them at a time, firing them off as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Tom Ahern “And we’re just hoping that these guns don’t get in the hands of more violent offenders that are gonna use them in crimes.”

They were just passing through on a train from Smith and Wesson’s factory in Springfield, Massachusetts to a licensed dealer in Minnesota.

What has law enforcement and politicians here so concerned is that these are exactly the kind of weapons and magazines they’re trying to keep off the streets of Chicago.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Illinois
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To: BerryDingle

Actually, the S&W M&P 15 Sport rifle is quite reasonably priced. I recently bought one for $641.00 before fees and taxes. Unfortunately, shortly thereafter I was carrying it in a canoe and, like many other FReepers, suffered a Tragic Boating Accident. Now I can only imagine the pleasures of shooting it.


41 posted on 05/10/2014 1:46:26 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Tupelo; BenLurkin
24 re: I’m not any kind of gun expert but I’m pretty sure that “heavy weapons” are things like mortars and M.-2s

No no no. Not since the Wizards of Smart like Ted O’Baxter started calling any long gun larger than 22LR a “Heavy Weapon”. 5.56mm and .223 now qualify as (Gasp) heavy weapons. Next on the agenda is to move the bar down to 17 caliber. Damn, there goes my .177 pellet rifle.

I believe "heavy" weapons originally meant belt-fed automatic machine guns which required, at least, 2 infantrymen to break down, carry (along with the ammo boxes), and assemble/ operate in the field. Think of the WWII M1919 Browning cal. 30-06 and M2 Browning cal. .50. Don't really know what today's infantry equivalent is, e.g.,the SAW.

Mortars, bazookas (or whatever equivalent missile launcher infantrymen use today), and RPGs, while "heavy" are classified as close-in support explosive ordinances.

42 posted on 05/10/2014 1:47:19 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: Red Steel

One of our “allies” south of Israel lost 20-40000 form a warehouse. I guess fast and furious did not work all the way up to Chicago.


43 posted on 05/10/2014 1:48:38 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: blackdog

Just dawned on me when you mentioned the blm and NV. I got a feelin’ that hairy screed will blame it on............ The Koch brothers. They’re responsible for ALL evil that occurs in this country according to brain damaged hairy.


44 posted on 05/10/2014 1:48:51 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: F15Eagle

That’s redundant...no? Every LIB is a “pantywaist”.


45 posted on 05/10/2014 1:49:00 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Organic Panic

Indeed, those of us who are members of the Coast Guard Auxiliary and Power Squadrons must redouble our boating safety efforts to prevent and more such Tragic Boating accidents, especially when they involve firearms. We FReepers seem particularly prone to suffering such horrible tragedies while transporting “military grade assault weapons.”


46 posted on 05/10/2014 1:52:44 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: MinuteGal

About a year or so ago someone posted a “Chicago Sun Times” article about an interview with a Chicago gang banger where he said one way they get their weapons is by robberies much like this one. Only trouble is one of those rifles is a lot larger and more awkward than the hand guns they prefer.


47 posted on 05/10/2014 1:58:54 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Red Steel

I read that in my best Al Sharpton voice.


48 posted on 05/10/2014 1:59:46 PM PDT by fudimo
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To: rktman

Especially in Englewood, and so sad. About 65 years ago I had a totally vile experience having a tonsiectomy at the Englewood Hospital, AKA Englglewood Butcher Palace. Back then there was even a private, quite POSH, Englewood Country Club. Tragic how things often change, far too often for the worse.


49 posted on 05/10/2014 2:07:36 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Red Steel

Keep an eye on Yee ...


50 posted on 05/10/2014 3:46:09 PM PDT by livius
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To: Red Steel
Special Agent Tom Ahern, ATF: “They’re high-capacity rifles. They’re very dangerous when they’re in the wrong hands.”

Golf clubs are dangerous "when they’re in the wrong hands". Swimming pools are statistically more dangerous than guns, and they're most dangerous when left alone by themselves unattended -- unlike guns.

One of the most common firearms used in homicides is a Smith and Wesson product -- but it's a .38 caliber revolver, not an M4gery.

52 posted on 05/10/2014 5:19:36 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: BenLurkin

Definitely needs to be crew-served to qualify. It helps if it also requires a prime mover.


53 posted on 05/10/2014 6:27:00 PM PDT by SargeK
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To: SargeK

So, who knew these guns were onboard this train and which car to break into? Inside job?


54 posted on 05/10/2014 10:47:52 PM PDT by SuzanneC
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To: Sooth2222

The rifle on;y shoots one round at a time, so it is not ‘high capacity’. The magazines are standard issue 30 rounders, so they aren’t high capacity either. Special agent Tom is a piece of verminous federal filth spreading the oligarch’s lies.


55 posted on 05/10/2014 11:01:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: BenLurkin

Hard to figure out whether this article was written in Jive, Ebonics, or some new variation of the two combined


56 posted on 05/10/2014 11:18:42 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: libstripper
47 About a year or so ago someone posted a “Chicago Sun Times” article about an interview with a Chicago gang banger where he said one way they get their weapons is by robberies much like this one. ...

Ecclesiastes 1:9 (NIV, © 2011) 9 What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.

The gangsters from the 1920s-1930s would burglarize National Guard and local LEO armories to get the Browning M1918 BAR cal. 30-06. I think it was still possible, at least up till 1934, to buy the Thompson M1928 cal. .45 over the counter.

57 posted on 05/11/2014 12:24:58 AM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: SuzanneC

Almost certainly.


58 posted on 05/11/2014 1:33:14 AM PDT by SargeK
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To: Red Steel

Good times in the articles comments section.


59 posted on 05/11/2014 4:27:45 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: rktman

My first thought-maybe this was intentional, a sort of a domestic Fast and Furious.

Have to keep those Chicago gangs well equipped.

I am surprised that useful Commie mayor and police chief have not banned all trains from Chicago yet.


60 posted on 05/11/2014 4:34:55 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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