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To: Fester Chugabrew
You can make all the empty claims you wish. But there is no "there" there.

Rahm Emanuel does not have the privilege of running red lights and ignoring speed limits. He's not a cop responding to an "emergency" or a fireman, or his limo an ambulance responding to an emergency. He is merely an elected official.

Since when is routine travel for a mayor "an emergency"? The law you brought does not make the exceptions you are looking for. Perhaps somewhere else in code of law you could be able to find what you are looking for? Keep looking.

But so far, can you tell that by law, that when not responding to an emergency, and/or using lights/sirens, that police vehicles, including patrol vehicles are by law required to observe traffic laws?

Some states spell that part out better. That this aspect of law is rarely enforced in respect to law enforcement patrol vehicles does not make it "legal".

As it is, I'm not sure if you can't admit to being wrong, or if you are actually stupid enough to think you are correct.

Either way...not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you?

Bow, peasant, bow.

Like hoosierham said,


35 posted on 05/08/2014 8:13:29 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon; hoosierham

meant to include you since I mentioned your name.


36 posted on 05/08/2014 8:14:28 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon; hoosierham

I do find it ironic that you and hoosierham would lecture me about “chains” when it is you who would not allow for the slightest civil departure for the sake of official expedience and efficiency. It is one occasion where the red tape can be cut, and here you are hankering for its enforcement. Go figure.


37 posted on 05/08/2014 8:26:30 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: BlueDragon

It’s an official motorcade, not Rahm driving around town with his ballerina bimbos. Get it?


38 posted on 05/08/2014 8:28:36 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: BlueDragon; hoosierham

Let me try to put it another way.

There is a certain amount of latitude we ought to grant to civil authorities so they can go about their business, because they occupy offices that are for the benefit of a wider population. Dad makes the rule: “Don’t run in the house.” But Dad may break his own rule to serve his household. Since I am not privy to the conditions under which Rahm’s motorcade had to get somewhere, I have no idea how to assess things. But I do know this: in the scheme of things it simply does not frost my bagel to see an official motorcade run red lights.

I totally understand there are abuses, and Emanuel can easily be made a case in point. I also count you both as fierce defenders of liberty and do not fault you for pointing out the air of hypocrisy that attends to any and every unnecessary flouting of law. It is unfortunate that our mutual tones have led to some acrimony.

My entire point is to place a check on the tendency to reject legitimate authority and the privileges that attend to it, and to stress the fact that there really are occasions when running a red light may be the better course of action.

Lastly, as you probably have sensed by now, this is relatively low on my list of abuses we suffer together under the current administration.

God bless you both. We really are on the same side, yet, as another has put it, we may agree to disagree on this point.


39 posted on 05/08/2014 8:42:21 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: BlueDragon
. . . not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you?

Absolutely not. Are you?

40 posted on 05/08/2014 8:45:23 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: BlueDragon

Is it not a bit ludicrous to think that a guy whose office effects millions of people should not (despite all derelictions on his part) be accorded the courtesy of getting from one side of town to the other in an official motorcade without the obstructions the people whom he serves must deal with from day to day? You can bet there are people in the state who have “authorized” such behavior, and for good reason. Besides, it get’s his derelict a$$ out of the way that much quicker.

It is the Office of the Mayor of Chicago. The Office deserves respect. Respect begets privileges, albeit circumscribed, for even the Mayor of Chicago is forbidden by law to endanger the citizenry with his motorcade(s). Running through red lights is a small privilege.

What kind of citizenry would want to see the Mayor of Chicago slapped with fines and frog-marched over his official motorcade running red lights? A citizenry both petty and uneducated; the same kind Rahm Emanuel depends on for re-election.


41 posted on 05/08/2014 9:05:27 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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