[Georgia Girl 2]

There’s a hot wind on the horizon. :-)

[ridesthemiles]

For all on FR who support & admire Bundy, may I suggest you find RANGE MAGAZINE on the internet & buy a subscription for yourself & your friends who are like-minded.

This magazine has supported the ranchers & farmers for years.

[winner3000]

Thank you for posting one of the most educational articles I have read in a while, on a topic I was not familiar with. It does a great job discussing the history of today’s conflict between the Fed and the Western States, and present cogent arguments for the ownership of the land by the Western States. I find myself much better armed to effectively debate the other side.

[Sherman Logan]

The claim in this article is that it is a Constitutional provision that federal lands are all supposed to be handed over to the states. While this may indeed be the case, I don't think the article demonstrates it very well.

Virginia’s Act of Cession of 1784, which became a model for others, stipulated that the ceded lands would be disposed of for revenue for the United States and the creation of new member states, “and shall be faithfully and bona fide disposed of for that purpose, and for no other use or purpose whatsoever.”

The article here is talking about agreements whereby the state of VA, and by extension other eastern states, ceded their claims to the federal government under certain conditions. One of which was that land title would be eventually turned over to the new states. Note that this agreement was pre-Constitution.

There is no reason given, that I saw, whereby this principle should be considered a constitutional requirement for lands acquired by the USA in other ways, such as by the Louisiana Purchase or the Treaty of Guadelupe Hidalgo, which is how the USA acquired title to Nevada.

AFAIK, pretty much all of this land was available for sale to the public for most of a century. There were no buyers, for the simple reason that the land wasn't worth anything.

Even today, most of it still isn't worth anything. Could Bundy borrow money to buy 200,000 acres of BLM land, which at a mere $100 an acre would be $20,000,000; then pay off the mortgage and make a profit running cattle on the land? Of course not.

So should we give the land away to private owners? Even if he owned it free and clear, could Bundy pay real estate taxes on that amount of private property and still make a profit running cattle? I don't know, but I doubt it.

Does anyone have a reference to federal land title ever being turned over in toto to state ownership in any of the states formed from the LA Purchase, the Oregon Treaty or the Mexican Cession? Texas is a special case, having been an independent nation prior to entry into the Union. Thus all public lands were held by the State there.

[Sherman Logan]

Although the new states were promised that upon admission the federal government would “extinguish title,” the “Western states” of 1828 (Indiana, Illinois, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Alabama) had to force the federal government to dispose of the lands, as promised in their Admission Acts or Enabling Acts.

For some reason the author chose not to include a link.

Does anybody know when or how this "forcing" occurred?

[reed13k]

Bfl

[B4Ranch]

As a Potential Domestic Terrorist, I stand proudly ready to defend my Country against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

This is #1 of 78 videos on the subject. It might be an idea to download them all considering what happened at the Bundy Ranch this past week.<

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Scope Turrets (2/2)

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TOP Sniper Scopes in History Overview

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Scope Quality by Brand

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Scopes - Rex's BEST Picks

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BASIC External Ballistics

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Bore Axis Shifts Due to Internal Rifle Vibration Issues

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SNIPER 101 Part 48
Case Resizing Tips

SNIPER 101 Part 49
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Priming Your Cases

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Powder Measure and Scale Tutorial

SNIPER 101 Part 52
Bullet Seating and Crimping

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Load Development for Extreme Range Shooting

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Bipods and Monopods

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Muzzle Brake Pull Off Effect (repaired version)

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Muzzle Brakes for Long Range Rifles

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Scope Mount and Rings Installation & Discussion

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Ballistics Tables Muzzle Velocity Variation (1/2)

SNIPER 101 Part 59
Ballistics Tables Muzzle Velocity Variation (2/2)

SNIPER 101 Part 60
Suppressors, Brakes, and Transitional Ballistics

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Intro to Advanced External Ballistics & Tables

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Zero Your Rifle in 3 SHOTS

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Ballistic Tables - Excel TEMPLATES Intro

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JBM Ballistics Intro

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SNIPER 101 Part 69
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Coriolis Effects on Rifle Bullets

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Coriolis Drift (Questions Answered)

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SNIPER 101 Part 76
G1 vs G7 Drag Functions & Ballistic Coefficients

SNIPER 101 Part 77
Calculating FIRING SOLUTIONS for Various Applications of Fire

SNIPER 101 Part 78
Ballistic CALCFORMS How to Use / Introduction

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