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'Many dead' in Ukraine offensive
BBC ^ | 2 May 2014 | BBC

Posted on 05/02/2014 7:53:13 AM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler

Many pro-Russia rebels have been killed, injured and arrested in the Ukrainian government offensive in the eastern city of Sloviansk, interim president Oleksandr Turchynov has said.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: putin; russia; slavyansk; sloviansk; ukraine
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To: Longbow1969
Hitler was regarded as the greater evil in WW2, so we made a temporary alliance with the Soviet Union.

The greater evil between the Globalists and Russia are definitely the Globalists. The Globalists - Obama/Soros/McCain and the sodomite Globo-Marxists in Brussels - are ruining the USA RIGHT NOW! They are destroying Western Civilization on the North American continent and in Europe as we speak.

What Russia has done is a response to the Globalists instigated overthrow of their most important neighbor and strategic ally. The Globalists are the aggressors here.

Van Rompuy: If The Public Doesn't Want EU Expansion, 'We Do It Anyway'

So why do you side with Obama, Soros, McCain, and the sodomite Globo-Marxists in Brussels in regards to the Ukraine situation.

121 posted on 05/03/2014 4:07:13 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
So why do you side with Obama, Soros, McCain, and the sodomite Globo-Marxists in Brussels in regards to the Ukraine situation

You are asking the same question I already answered. Is this just your standard, and extremely lackluster, reply to anyone who isn't cheering Putin's attempt to, at minimum, reassert Russia's regional dominance over nations such as the Ukraine that would rather look to the West?

I hate to tell you this that by the time this thing has fully played out, the bulk of Ukraine (what parts Russia doesn't manage to annex or gain control over) will be even more firmly in the camp of the EU/NATO than ever before. Ethnic Ukrainians in particular will be more unified than at any time in recent history in their attempts to break free of Moscow's grip. Putin is getting away with a lot right now because the US is weak (being led by a naive clown will do that to a country) and the Ukrainian military was gutted and badly compromised, but what he has done will not be forgotten by the Ukrainian people. I expect the result of the upcoming elections to a total repudiation of the pro-Russian parties and candidates. Perhaps that is why Russia will do everything it can to prevent free and fair elections from occurring in Ukraine. Putin is pretty good at stamping out anything resembling free elections, free speech, independent media, etc, in Russia - so I expect he will fairly effective at attempting it elsewhere.

122 posted on 05/03/2014 4:56:23 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

There was a video of pro-coup thugs attacking an MP who criticized them on the floor of the parliament. That happened after the coup when many MPs had already fled.


123 posted on 05/04/2014 12:24:36 AM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: Longbow1969

“Putin’s actions have only driven the Ukrainians (75% of whom are ethnic Ukranian) even further towards wanting to be part of the West. Putin may grab some land here, but in the end the Ukrainian people are lost to Russia for generations.”

True. As are all other former members of the Warsaw Pact and eventually former members of the Soviet Republics.


124 posted on 05/06/2014 5:36:27 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: Zhang Fei
>>>>>>If Ukrainians are able to send 100 Russians home in body bags a month, I expect Russian public opinion will eventually buckle and force Putin to do a U-turn.<<<<

The good number of Ukrainians (citizens of Ukraine) ARE Russians (in ethnic sense).

The Russians you want to kill are citizens of Ukraine, not Russia.

Continuous display of dead Russians will enrage Russian public to urge Putin to step in and chop off 75% of Ukraine populated by the Russians and leave the 25% (part of pre-WWII Poland) to the West.

125 posted on 05/06/2014 12:48:43 PM PDT by DTA
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To: Jeff Head

Cossacks coming over border into Antrarsyt greated with fanfare and horn blowing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usEioTKJJUk


126 posted on 05/06/2014 12:50:39 PM PDT by caww
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To: Uncle Miltie
>>>>>>Russian soldier without insignia are pirates / illegal combatants, and may be killed without consideration.<<<<

Ditto for American Graystone mercs.

127 posted on 05/06/2014 12:54:39 PM PDT by DTA
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

....”Russia is reacting to the overthrow of its most important neighbor and strategic ally by the same Globalists that are wrecking our country RIGHT NOW. I support Russia in a similar fashion to the way the USA supported the Soviet Union during WWII”....

Exactly.... I agree..


128 posted on 05/06/2014 12:56:51 PM PDT by caww
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To: DTA

Agreed. Combatants ought to adhere to the rules of war, lest innocent civilians be accidentally targeted.

Since we’re on the niceties of civilization, shall we agree that Russia violated its Treaty areement to honor Ukraine’s borders?


129 posted on 05/06/2014 12:58:32 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a Child Rapist and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Europe’s the new “gem” both Russia and the US are trying to drive a wedge between.

Remember when Putin became so popular over Syria? That was a blow to the US Administration but more importantly Europe drew even closer with Putin. The US doesn’t want this as Putin and Bric stand in the way of the Global Agenda for World power...which the US is well involved in.

It’s never been about freedom or democracy...it’s all about who gets Euopre for trade business and the road ahead. Splitting/Isolating Russia/Putin from Europe’s fold is at the bottom of this.


130 posted on 05/06/2014 1:03:09 PM PDT by caww
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Europe’s the new “gem” both Russia and the US are trying to drive a wedge between.

Remember when Putin became so popular over Syria? That was a blow to the US Administration but more importantly Europe drew even closer with Putin. The US doesn’t want this as Putin and Bric stand in the way of the Global Agenda for World power...which the US is well involved in.

It’s never been about freedom or democracy...it’s all about who gets Euopre for trade business and the road ahead. Splitting/Isolating Russia/Putin from Europe’s fold is at the bottom of this.


131 posted on 05/06/2014 1:03:09 PM PDT by caww
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To: wideawake
>>>>>After the previous government had murdered dozens of unarmed, actual protestors.<<<<

Jeez.

Snipers killing police and protesters in Kiev were shooting from the positions beloniong to the oposition. They were hired to suport "Our man Yats" and his thugs.

It is the known fact

Classic false flag, like your posting here.

132 posted on 05/06/2014 1:28:45 PM PDT by DTA
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To: Zhang Fei

I do not care what happens in Ukraine enough to want us to use our military. In my view, Ukraine is not worth getting a bunch of lightly armed American soldiers killed over. It would probably take a lengthy build up of forces to effectively fight the Russians now. We just don’t have much left in Europe to fight them with. Our last tanks left Germany a year ago.
http://www.stripes.com/news/us-army-s-last-tanks-depart-from-germany-1.214977
As far as I know, we do not have any armor left in Europe now.


133 posted on 05/07/2014 9:27:14 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20
I do not care what happens in Ukraine enough to want us to use our military. In my view, Ukraine is not worth getting a bunch of lightly armed American soldiers killed over. It would probably take a lengthy build up of forces to effectively fight the Russians now. We just don’t have much left in Europe to fight them with. Our last tanks left Germany a year ago.

We can help the Ukrainians in ways well short of having GI's fight the Russians. I'm thinking LAW's, Javelins and Stingers. In addition to MRE's, sat phones and other non-lethal supplies.

134 posted on 05/07/2014 9:57:33 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

I am guessing that by the time Obama decides to help, if he ever does, it will be over.


135 posted on 05/07/2014 10:09:50 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20
I am guessing that by the time Obama decides to help, if he ever does, it will be over.

The Russians took Afghanistan in days. They thought it was over. They were wrong. Of course, we had the same experience in Iraq and Afghanistan.

136 posted on 05/07/2014 12:14:13 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Here is a clue why obastard is on the neo nazi side and poking Russia.

Russia backs Assad against jihadis in Syria, and 0bastard is helping the jihadis.


137 posted on 05/07/2014 4:11:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

See my comment above. I realize this is an “old” thread - 5 days old!

Russia backs Assad against assorted jihadis including AQ in Syrian. Obastard backs the jihadis.

0bastard naturally is poking Russia and therefore siding with neo Nazis. Plus Putin isn’t nicey nice to faggots. Double bad.

Why anyone thinks that this administration will ever choose a good side to be on, have good motives (ie good the for US, good for anyone except Moslems and communists and faggots), or in any way do anything beneficial, is mind boggling.


138 posted on 05/07/2014 5:47:56 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Zhang Fei

The biggest problem I see with helping Ukrainians is that we still have troops in the country next door to Russia. They could still cause us a lot of trouble if they started arming our enemies. I don’t see how we could make a difference in the outcome of their conflict without a cost higher than it is worth to us.


139 posted on 05/08/2014 6:05:07 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: little jeremiah

AQ in Syria: “insurgents.”

AQ in Iraq: “insurgents.”

Boko Haram: “insurgents.”

Pravy Sektor, Svoboda, etc, etc: not Fascists or Neo-Nazis but rather “ultra nationalists.”

Funny how that is how the MSM labels things, huh?


140 posted on 05/08/2014 8:16:47 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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