Posted on 05/01/2014 9:22:46 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
Ukrainian government forces are reported to have launched an operation in the city of Sloviansk.
The city is a stronghold for pro-Russian separatists who are exerting increasing control over the eastern regions of the country.
Separatists in the city and Russian television channels are reporting that the city is being stormed.
News agencies report gunfire, explosions and a military helicopter firing on the outskirts of the city.
The BBC's Sarah Rainsford, in eastern Ukraine, has spoken to Russian separatists who says fighting is taking place at checkpoints on the outskirts of the city - but she adds there is no independent confirmation of this.
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Yes,’residents of Sloviansk’ are so good at defending their city that they have somehow got MANPADS and became skilled enough at using them to shoot down two helicopters.
What do you expect them to do? Nothing? Let separatists, spearhead by Russian special forces, seize the entire region of Eastern Ukraine? And I’ve heard nothing about the referendum being postponed.
It seems to be a lose-lose situation to me.
If they do nothing, the East will become de facto Russian territory, and the Russians will end up doing the same bogus referendum that they did in Chechnya and in Crimea, getting over 95% of the vote as usual.
Concurring bump.
The illegitimate puppet regime in Kiev is crumbling, reduced to military attacks on its own citizens.
It’s a tough situation for sure. I know there are people within Eastern Ukraine who want to be united. Perhaps the majority don’t, or perhaps the most thuggish have asserted themselves. I just don’t have any way of knowing because both sources of info are liars. The same media who shields the masses from info to protect Rats is the media telling us we should support Ukraine.
If you said, “Texas has a right to defend its sovereignty from ______”, I would have to wholeheartedly agree. Or even if it was about Mexican-Americans forcefully taking the Southwest. I know enough that I would volunteer to violently crush them. I just don’t know if you can transpose those examples to Ukraine.
From what I understand, Ukraine’s sovereignty has historically been nebulous. It seems to me that the people of Ukraine, the army, the police, are being used as pawns by really bad people. There’s going to be slaughter on both, no ALL, sides to make a few old men richer. That’s why I say the common Ukrainian should say, “screw this” and go try to live in peace with their neighbor Russia. That’s why I agreed with Junta that the common man will get nothing out of dying for Crapholekst.
Ukraine has been promised support. They may get it just to get Benghazi off the front pages. “How dare you repubicans investigate the president when we’re at war fighting for freedom!”
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