Posted on 04/30/2014 2:36:59 PM PDT by doc390
I was simply paraphrasing their argument.
In no way do I support it. It scares the spit put of me.
Well shoot. I guess I can no longer keep the chopped up body of my last victim openly displayed in the passenger’s seat.
Too bad that the Penn supreme court decided to take away rights instead of strengthening the citizen
Supreme Court is bought and paid for by the liberal left.
Constitution be dammed, it does not matter.
Something will change.
Oh state, never mind.
Yet.
I need to read more.
going to sit in the corner.
I suspect that police assume people are busy and aren't willing to spend the time being detained while a warrant is procured. Therefore, they threaten to hold them while getting a warrant, and that threat alone makes people cave.
It hasn't happened to me yet, but I do wonder what I'd do in a similar situation. I say that I will ask if I'm being detained and demand my 4th amendment protection until a warrant is shown, but when it comes down to it will I be willing to put in the hours of inconvience that might ultimately result from an obstinate police officer?
-PJ
The car itself makes a pretty good weapon. If the ‘bad guy’ just wanted to, you know, be a ‘bad guy’.
Soooooo, Stop n Frisk is wrong but this is ok?
Soon to be followed by citations for “Intention to exceed the speed limit” & “Considering not stopping at a stop sign”. Thought crimes seem to be the thing of the moment... just ask the NBA!
PLENTY of time.
He could be ticketing scores of speeders or eating dozens of doughnuts it the time he daren't take his eyes off of me lest I destroy evidence....
For those who quote Ben Franklin saying “They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
Well, I guess we now got neither...
USA - RIP
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HERO! Surely u jest!
As long yo aint no minority. Really? This is going to back fire on them.
I was once a 20 year-old male with a '64 Skylark convertible... that made for a pretty effective cop magnet. One night I was driving home from the recording studio at 1:30 in the morning, with the full drum kit in the back seat and the trunk. Going through Hopewell Township, NJ, cherries lit up behind me and the next thing I know I am pulled over, allegedly for a tail light being out. Next thing I know, I am asked to step out of the car... told to stand at the front of my car, accused of drinking and smoking dope... which I did neither.
So I get the whole "threat" about if I don't allow a search of the car, they will detain me and get the K-9 out there. I was dog tired and had to be up in 4 hours to shovel coal into the firebox of a steam locomotive that morning.
They pulled out the whole drum kit on the side of the road. They then found my Louisville Slugger, and mitt and they had a HUGH problem with that and demanded I carry it in the trunk, because, "You could use it as a weapon against an officer of the law".
That exact line will never be forgotten.
Then, and I am not making this up, they found my collection of boomerangs sitting on the floor in the back... I was asked, "Do you know how to use these?"
When I replied yes, IMMEDIATELY, I get the whole, "You could use these as weapons against an officer of the law" line again... which I was ready to just either bust out laughing out loud as I thought how that conversation would go...
"Excuse me, officer. Can you stand right here so I can run 35 yards down the road so I can get a good clear line at you with my boomerang?"... it was that or just grabing the cop's gun, cuffing him, and throwing him in the back of his car, and driving it to the station to file a complaint.
So into the trunk went my 6 boomerangs, too... and while I was there, I jiggled the wire on the tail light reilluminating it... 45 minute traffic stop.
That was the day I learned contempt and distrust for "officers of the law".
Unfortunately, no. Way back in 1925, SCOTUS held in Carroll v. United States that a search of an automobile stopped by the police on a highway does not require a warrant, because the driver could drive the car away and ditch the evidence while the police were getting a warrant.
America, home of the free and brave, was great while it lasted.
That’s another question, isn’t it? How will people of color react to this?
Pennsylvania now joins the rest of the nation. This is news?
This is the norm, not an exception. In most of the nation PC is needed to search a vehicle, not a warrant. To say nothing of consent to search or inventorying an impounded vehicle.
This article is a bit of scare mongering only relevant to PA residents, the rest of you already live under this system. If that is repugnant to any readers here, then I would strongly recommend that said readers learn more about the laws they are subject to, as it is difficult to change what you don’t know exists in the first place.
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