Posted on 04/30/2014 5:53:19 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
A new poll surveying young Americans' political attitudes released by Harvard University's Institute of Politics Tuesday found millennials have less trust in government than ever before.
Harvard's poll showed millennials, which the pollsters defined as peopled aged 18 to 29, have lost trust in a variety of different major public institutions including the President, the military, Congress, the Supreme Court, and the federal government as a whole. Of all the institutions tracked by the poll, the President and the military lost the most trust among young Americans with a seven point drop. Overall, the pollsters said the level of trust millennials have in "most American institutions tested in our survey" had dropped below even "last year’s historically low numbers."
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“Why support abortion, gay marriage, and the homosexual agenda, at the federal level?”
That’s called a “straw man” argument.
I’m not suggesting supporting it. I’m saying that taking a stance one way or the other in the party platform is a mistake.
Aside from that, no nationally prominent Republican is advocating changing any of that at the Federal level that I’m aware of... Can you name an example?
The GOP exists for it’s platform, why would you be calling to end that platform and end the GOP as a party?
The pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-American, anti-conservative left already has a party, in fact two, the democrat and the libertarian.
There is no replacement for the conservative GOP base, social liberals already vote democrat, and support that party.
These results are more of a mixed bag, if you look at them more carefully. The 'Rats still lead Pubbies by double digits in both age subgroups, although they do not command anywhere near a majority in terms of party identification.
Also, the UN is trusted more than the federal government and several federal government institutions!!! I don't know if this is more a reflection on leftist brainwashing in education or more that the federal government is so distrusted.
On the positive side, it seems like a higher percentage of Romney (?Republican) voters will be turning out to vote this year as compared to Obama voters in this age group. But the 'Rats will undoubtedly try to overcome such a trend by escalating their fraud and cheating operations.
Seems like the GOP has opportunities to attract millennial "independents with more of an emphasis on reducing the size and scope of government, especially with respect to personal data mining.
‘What are “family values” if not supporting the institution of the traditional family?
And saying that inherently places a moral value on family vs fornication.
The human understands this.’
There are many interpretations of “family values”, but the main point is that almost everyone understands that supporting the family unit is important, regardless of other societal factors. There is nothing contentious about it.
The Republican party can either attract new members based on a few core ideas as outlined before, or it can fade into obscurity. Those are the choices.
That is just utterly bizarre fantasizing. You don't drop the core of the party platform, discard your voters, and seek their replacements from the party that you just copied.
All you are doing is calling for the end of the GOP, and the end of a party for conservatives, and an end to resistance to abortion and the left, on social issues.
What is your game?
In what way is it "dropping the core of the party platform"?
Here is the entire platform from 2012:
"All you are doing is calling for the end of the GOP, and the end of a party for conservatives, and an end to resistance to abortion and the left, on social issues."
Those who feel strongly about such issues can promote them. I think it will be most effective at the state and local level. Despite the 2012 platform above, the perception of the Republican party as the party of intolerance and religious extremism was enough to sink it. It also didn't help that we fielded a subpar candidate, of course.
"What is your game?"
Keeping the Dems from running the country into the ground for four more years (at least). Looking into the future, and the likelihood of amnesty for the illegal aliens who are very likely to be Dem voters, we need to increase our appeal outside the party. It's that simple.
Silly propaganda from a person who opposes conservatism.
Your game is obviously against social conservatism, which is what this conversation is about, so did you post the GOP platform on abortion of such issues, of course not.
With your plan, the GOP adopts much of the Democrat platform, and loses most of it’s supporters as they form a third party, and somehow suddenly that results in the democrat voters switching parties to lead the now, half democrat GOP, to political victory.
We know what platform you support and why you are against the GOP.
Here is the leftists agenda hidden behind the Libertarian Party curtain.
Libertarian Party Platform:
Throw open the borders completely; only a rare individual (terrorist, disease carrier etc.) can be kept from freedom of movement through “political boundaries”.
Homosexuals; total freedom in the military, gay marriage, adoption, child custody and everything else.
Abortion; zero restrictions or impediments.
Pornography; no restraint, no restrictions.
Drugs; Meth, Heroin, Crack, and anything new that science can come up with, zero restrictions.
Advertising those drugs, prostitution, and pornography; zero restrictions.
Military Strength; minimal capabilities.
Two things may help you.
Millennial libertarians voted for Obama, and social liberal, Mitt Romney, easily swept the Independent vote.
Why did the GOP lose in an election that they couldn’t lose? It wasn’t because the liberal Massachusetts Governor who gave America gay marriage, was pro-abortion, anti-gun, and for gay Boy Scout leaders, who despised Reagan, and for gays in the military, was too conservative, it was the opposite.
“Silly propaganda from a person who opposes conservatism.”
Nope. I don’t “oppose conservatism”. Mostly I oppose stupidity.
“Your game is obviously against social conservatism, which is what this conversation is about, so did you post the GOP platform on abortion of such issues, of course not.”
What I posted came from here...you know, the official page of the 2012 GOP platform:
http://www.gop.com/2012-republican-platform_home/
“With your plan, the GOP adopts much of the Democrat platform, and loses most of it’s supporters as they form a third party, and somehow suddenly that results in the democrat voters switching parties to lead the now, half democrat GOP, to political victory.”
Nonsense. It doesn’t adopt anything. It simply chooses its fights wisely. The idea of a third party gaining any significant traction is a pipe dream.
“We know what platform you support and why you are against the GOP.
Here is the leftists agenda hidden behind the Libertarian Party curtain.
[snip]”
While I like some aspects of the libertarian ideal (you know, that “liberty” thing is pretty good) I disagree with others. Don’t put words in my mouth.
I say what I mean and mean what I say.
What I would like to see happen is a reversal of the rush to destruction the US is on, along with a big drop in government spending and government bureaucracy. I think that’s considerably less likely if the Republicans insist that religious dogma is a major part of their platform. “Freedom of religion” is taken seriously by many.
Wow, if you are going to post a portion of the GOP platform, post a portion relevant to what we are talking about, for instance abortion, or marriage.
You are so confused (or hostile) that you think the platform is “religious dogma”, rather than just sane conservatism to preserve America and conservative voting, you evidently don’t know that the vast majority of people who feel like you, are dedicated leftist voters.
Social liberalism results in creating more liberal democrat party voters, not fewer, for instance look at the tea party, they are deeply religious and social conservative, more so than the average GOP voter, that is who conservatives are.
If you move left, then the conservatives will simply move on, and that will leave you with little, is is social liberalism, and weak defense issues, that keeps the Libertarian party down there in invisible land for example.
In other words, you have a party, and it is a total failure, the best they ever did was against Reagan in 1980.
Hahahah. They trust the government MORE than they do the media! That’s grand!
That is the main page. Which part of that did you not understand? It's directly relevant to the discussion.
The rest of your remarks are mostly incorrect generalizations, along with the deluded idea that I'm advocating a "move to the left". That is absolutely incorrect.
As far as your politics that you are pushing, of course dropping much conservatism from the platform and the party agenda, would be a “move to the left”.
Where is the incorrect generalization?
“”You are so confused (or hostile) that you think the platform is “religious dogma”, rather than just sane conservatism to preserve America and conservative voting, you evidently don’t know that the vast majority of people who feel like you, are dedicated leftist voters.
Social liberalism results in creating more liberal democrat party voters, not fewer, for instance look at the tea party, they are deeply religious and social conservative, more so than the average GOP voter, that is who conservatives are.
If you move left, then the conservatives will simply move on, and that will leave you with little, is is social liberalism, and weak defense issues, that keeps the Libertarian party down there in invisible land for example.
In other words, you have a party, and it is a total failure, the best they ever did was against Reagan in 1980.””
Picking a fight with the knuckle draggers, eh?
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