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To: lbryce

Are you kidding? If we are using 5.25 floppies at our nuclear facilities, the Russians are still on magnetic tape reels.


2 posted on 04/28/2014 7:50:38 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Yeah. You’re absolutely right. I hadn’t thought of that.
I was wondering why this is being leaked now but you’re point is very well taken.


3 posted on 04/28/2014 7:52:56 AM PDT by lbryce (Barack Hussein Obama:The Worst is Yet to Come)
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To: Boogieman

The Doomsday Machine


4 posted on 04/28/2014 7:55:25 AM PDT by ThirdMate
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To: Boogieman

And the Chinese on ferrite core memory.


5 posted on 04/28/2014 7:55:40 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Boogieman

Older technology is often less vulnerable.

The Russians used vacuum tube radios in their MiGs & Sukhois. Impervious to EMP.


10 posted on 04/28/2014 8:00:02 AM PDT by elcid1970
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To: Boogieman

Nah...they’re still using wire recorders...


11 posted on 04/28/2014 8:00:53 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Boogieman
We don't use 5.25" floppies. In the original article, it says "still relies on 5.25-inch 8-inch floppy disks from the 70s." The author was making the point that we don't even use 5.25" floppies.


17 posted on 04/28/2014 8:13:13 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Boogieman

SeeBS should have left this alone until FUBO is gone! Now he will probably hire his wife’s black female college “friend” from Canada to “develop” a new missile control system patterned after her “innovative and reliable” Healthcare website! If the Russians hear that’s going on, they will probably attack!


20 posted on 04/28/2014 8:16:51 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Boogieman

I watched the segment and a lot of what CBS tried to imply is BS.

I was a missileer and missile ops officer both underground and airborne as well as nuclear command and control. Until about 35 years ago the memory units that held the guidance data for MMIII were still plaited wire memory going back to MMI and before.

Although the giant floppies are ancient technologically, they and the system they are used in are much more secure. If I remember correctly and it’s been a long time (retired 20+ years ago), the large floppies are part of the communications system and not the launch/launch codes system which are/were electro-mechanical coded systems that are not externally computer controlled. The AF looked at computerized satellite linked systems for launch coding/decoding back 20+ years ago but it was not feasible or secure enough.

They did mention that the result of a cybersecurity audit of these systems it was determined that they were as safe as could be because they are not connected to the internet and do not rely on computerized systems or the internet to store and transmit enable or launch codes or sequences. In this case, hardened, electro-mechanical hardwires and giant floppies for some data storage are better and more secure.

The old movies like Colossis The Forbin Project and Wargames made a point that fully computerized systems were not safe, secure or infallible. Electronic, mechanical, human interface with strict and constant procedural training along with monthly evaluation for crew members makes for the safest and most secure systems.


21 posted on 04/28/2014 8:19:38 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Boogieman

In a world of high speed internet and high bandwidth communications, it is a wise bet to use the slowest mode of data transfer to transmit important data - US Govt does it everyday at multiple agencies. Ever hear of the world’s largest antenna which is used for Submarine com’s - it is miles long and the data transmitted is only a few bits per minute - safe and secure — totally overlooked by those who try to find it in the rest of data streams or radio waves.


28 posted on 04/28/2014 8:34:55 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Boogieman

Same at NASA. The computer technology was invariably a decade and a half behind. Defense and aerospace projects move through the timeline much more slowly than computer technology races ahead.


32 posted on 04/28/2014 8:44:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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