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C. Edmund Wright: Hannity, Paul Shouldn't Apologize Over Bundy
NewsMax ^ | 4/25/2014 | C. Edmund Wright

Posted on 04/28/2014 7:28:45 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross

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To: Servant of the Cross
The federal government owns 86% of the land in Nevada and more than 30% of the land in the USA. that's unconstitutional : http://benswann.com/lofti-who-actually-owns-americas-land-a-deeper-look-at-the-bundy-ranch-crisis/ >

the government this much land in Nevada and other states is socialism/communism. the land must be given to the states and individuals NOW. Nothing is more monstrous to me than government owning land

The gov is using 30% of the U.S. land for environmentalism when private companies could be using those vast resources to get oil, oil shale, logging, farmland etc.. Use Google to see that just on government owned lands in the west there is more recoverable oil than all of the rest of the world combined

21 posted on 04/28/2014 8:32:33 AM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Statist need the state vs libertarians that don't.

If the state collapse tomorrow it would have very little to no impact on Mr Bundy his live and how he supports himself. .in fact his live would be better his live with the state but he doesn't need the state to live and function.

Conversely people like Paul, Hannah, and Beck..if the state collapse tomorrow would be wiped out ruined everything they build would collapse with it..there lives change dramatically. ..

A Statist needs the state ..but many talk as hypocrite libertarians

22 posted on 04/28/2014 8:36:32 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Right on! As far as I am concerned, the moment the BLM militarized to combat civilians, this issue went to a level beyond who Bundy is or isn’t. This is about out-of-control federal government, and the need to stop it before this country becomes another example of the evils of totalitarianism.

As for Bundy’s comment, it was a slam on welfarism and the buying of minority loyalties with redistributed wealth. I’ll say this: Blacks were well on their way to overcoming the legacy of slavery, but they might never overcome the legacy of welfarism. I believe that sums up Bundy’s sentiments quite nicely. ...Considering all of the filth and ignorance that has been coming from the leftist media and the black community of late, Bundy’s comment was tame.


23 posted on 04/28/2014 8:37:22 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Servant of the Cross
Statist needs the state vs libertarians that don't.

If the state collapsed tomorrow it would have very little to no impact on Mr Bundy, his life and how he supports himself. .in fact his life would be better. He lives with the state but he doesn't need the state to live and function.

Conversely people like Paul, Hannah, and Beck..if the state collapse tomorrow would be wiped out ruined everything they build would collapse with it..there lives change dramatically. ..

A Statist needs the state ..but many talk as hypocrite libertarians

24 posted on 04/28/2014 8:39:31 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
You had the Lib screaming like a little girl and trying to constantly interrupt, LOL!

Good job.

25 posted on 04/28/2014 8:52:28 AM PDT by The Cajun (tea party!!!, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
You are, of course, right on your main point. The fact that the Left can always manage to "game" the real issues, by shrieking about "racism," "sexism," "homophobia," or other smear terms, which force many Conservatives to fall all over-themselves, proclaiming their innocence--and usually without even demanding that the shrieking Leftists define their terms--is a major reason why we have witnessed a many decade retreat from values once generally accepted.

Frankly, what we should be apologizing for are those sometime Conservative spokesmen, who can routinely be relied upon by our enemies, to help them distract attention from the real issues, for which they have no answer, by lending a spurious species of credibility to the smear terms.

Bundy may not be articulate; but he said nothing that should have distracted one iota from the real issue. The apologists, not Bundy, are the real problem.

William Flax

26 posted on 04/28/2014 9:16:41 AM PDT by Ohioan
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Yes, I was personally revolted by some of the language on The Blaze, about Bundy “spewing racist remarks.” They are falling all over themselves condemning the man. When the video is seen in context, I don’t believe he is racist at all. Beck and the rest are stumbling all over themselves trying to distance themselves from an old-school rancher who clumsily tried to express his empathy with black Americans and Mexicans. It’s a sickening display of political correctness strangling us as a society.


27 posted on 04/28/2014 9:58:41 AM PDT by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Jane Long; C. Edmund Wright

Randy Paul has *evolved* and he wants you to evolve, too.”

Well, I already evolved. Took me a lot of years and hard work to become what and who I am and what I will accept or compromise on and what I won’t.

My line in the sand is, IMO, pretty simple. Enforce the laws we already have on the books re illegals, marriage is between a man and a woman so quit shoving the gay rights down my throat and get the Federal government out of this issue entirely.

There are other things that would be simple to do: Abolish Education, HHS, EPA and IRS as well as several other government agencies and roll back their regulations at least to 1990, balance the budget now, require Voter ID in all states. But realistically I don’t expect any of this to happen in my lifetime.

Have been voting since 1958 but if my choices in 2016 are limited to Christie, Bush or Paul I’ll say no thanks.

In the meantime, we in Texas have an important runoff election coming up in May and our potential problems are more immediate than the 2016 Presidential election. Abbott running for Governor has maybe solved one problem but created another as to who will be the candidate for our new Attorney General.


28 posted on 04/28/2014 10:15:04 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

My beef, as it were, is why folks keep going outside their area of expertise. Bundy knows about the BLM/Western land grabs, etc. THAT is his area of expertise. He should stay away from anything and everything else. Becoming an overnight ‘celebrity’ does that to people, and it’s just dangerous.


29 posted on 04/28/2014 10:18:19 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Ohioan
You also make several compelling points. There are two really BIG issues involved here - 1) BLM ownership of land/their heavyhanded tactics; and 2) the health of the African American family. And they can "dilute" from each other as the liberals are intentionally conflating to distract from an honest dialogue. I wanted to comment on #2 but focused on #1 first in keeping with the thread.

Yes, Bundy was terribly inept with the words he used and any connection with the Alex Jones crowd is just terrible optics which the Left can easily use. And there is NO reason to even mention the slavery of the Civil War era. It's like Hitler/Nazi analogies. Doomed to fail.

However, if one simply used Ronald Reagan's words in the POTUS debate of 1980 ... "Is the health of the African-American ('Black') family better or worse since the 1960's and Johnson's big brother government 'Great Society'? Compare and contrast.

Only cowards like Eric 'the Red' Holder would pretend to argue that dependence on government is not an evil that can rob a community of its inherent dignity as equal and independent persons.

30 posted on 04/28/2014 10:48:57 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross
They should apologize for their moral cowardice.
Maybe Eric withHolder will take their confession.
31 posted on 04/28/2014 11:45:52 AM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Grams A

Agree with all you posted. Wish my retired relatives looked at it like you do. They don’t have a problem with the Romney’s and the Rove’s. They like Ted Cruz but think he’s sometimes *a little controversial*. We’re working on them, tho :)

Looking forward to having Governor Abbott serve. Hopefully, he hasn’t or won’t kowtow to La Raza groups and will fight even harder for Texas than he has as AG. And, I nominate you as candidate for our new AG ;)


32 posted on 04/28/2014 12:22:30 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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And, I nominate you as candidate for our new AG ;)”

You are just too funny. As you know since you are a Texan, Abbott had a lot more clout as AG than he will have as Governor so I just hope that the new AG understands that we expect him to follow in Abbott’s footsteps.

The only thing I would like to do in politics is have an opportunity to overhaul their budget and cut expenses. The Federal government is not the only entity we deal with that wastes a lot of money - Texas does also and it’s getting worse.

Good luck with your relatives. Sometimes I would love to shake some old people until their teeth rattle - even though “I are one of them”!! A lot of the older people in our Pubby group just want everybody to compromise and get along. Drives me crazy.


33 posted on 04/28/2014 12:46:46 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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