Posted on 04/26/2014 10:39:08 AM PDT by xzins
A prominent black leader is coming to the defense of embattled Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who was pilloried on Thursday after the New York Times published a quote by him referencing slavery.
“He wasn’t talking so much about black folks, but about the harm and damage that the leftist socialism has done to blacks,” said former U.N. Ambassador Alan Keyes, who also is a columnist for WND.
Ammon Bundy, Cliven Bundy’s son, told WND that the quotes were taken out of context and that his father was commiserating over the poor situation in which blacks find themselves because of oppressive government programs, regulations and practices.
Keyes said that was evident.
“I find it appalling that we basically have a history of the leftist liberalism that wants to extinguish black people by abortion [and] destroying the family structure,” Keyes told WND. “All of these things if you just look at the effects, you would say this was planned by some racist madman to destroy the black community.”
Then when somebody comes along to comment on that damage, the leftists all scream “racism,” he said.
“I think it’s time somebody started to recognize the racism that exists in its effects – the hard leftist ideology using the black community for their sacrificial lamb, for their sick ideology. It’s time we called them what they are,” he said.
“Now it’s racist to point it out.”
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Glad we’re on the same page...
Nope - Hage’s latest win has not been overturned. Hage duid have a countersuit, but his defense and suit were based on Nevada grazing law and grazing easements.
I understand what you’re saying, but you have just expanded the fight (and diluted your strength) to the point of meaninglessness.
But you all go ahead, fight an ever expanding war, and leave the winnable battle for us “small” thinkers.
And don’t forget to excoriate the folks who prefer to stay focused and not try to do everything at once.
BTW - how has this new front worked out for Bundy so far?
Democrats don't get off message because the Democrat party is a 'top down' bunch of thugs - they don't allow people to think for themselves.
How do I know that?
When a journalist is at a Tea Party gathering ANYONE can be interviewed. When a journalist is at an "Occupy' or other 'liberal' protest the journalist must talk to the spokesperson. No one is allowed to speak... without permission. It's the true 'stupid' party...
They could run idiots and hand them talking points to read... that's about as much intellect as it takes to be a democrat.
Unfortunately, Mr. Keyes is not a “Black leader” in the sense of having cachet in the Black community. As a conservative he is considered an “uncle tom.”
Yes - I understand what you’re saying. But wrongs are righted one at a time, not wholesale. The specific grazing issue was the point of the spear. I fear it has been abandoned for the “bigger picture”, which will ultimately mean nothing changes.
Yep, you’re right. My point is about staying focused. Conservatives, I thought, should be capable of staying on topic without top down control - but they aren’t, it seems. Discussions on this board dishearten me because of the number of folks who don’t even understand how and why these things sputter out. They have no focus, and they dilute all of their potential energies trying to beat down a mile long wall all at once, instead of concentrating on one spot until it gives way.
“We” don’t have much control over it anymore. It was being controlled and directed pretty well before Bundy’s unfortunate comments. Once he spoke, things spun out in viral fashion - which was easily predictable.
My brother is managing his issues pretty well - he calls me to vent, and to get advice once in a while, but there is nothing to build a movement on...yet. Besides, one can’t really run to the front of one of these deals - Bundy’s honest fight brought the spotlight to him, he wasn’t trying to lead a movement, the movement rallied to his cause. It was the cause, not the man, the attracted the support.
My brother’s case might well become “the cause” but I hope not, I wouldn’t wish that on anybody.
I have never expected Bundy to be perfect, so quit putting words in my mouth or assuming thoughts or opinions I have never expressed. All I hoped from Bundy is that he would understand that his battle was nearly won, that a much greater groundswell was beginning, and all he needed to do was remain focused and on topic.
My gosh! Hasn’t everyone seen over and over the mess conservatives have made by blabbing off topic? Doesn’t anybody learn from past events?
We have to be wise and circumspect if we want to win. We keep insisting on being bold and brash and provocative - and we needlessly break our swords upon the same rock again and again.
BTW - I seem to be the only one on this thread NOT “playing their tune” and recognizing what is going on...and more importantly why it happened in the first place.
So, then, Clarence Thomas is not a black leader?
Nor is Alan West?
Right?
No - you abject fool - more people are talking about whether Bundy is a racist or not. Very few are talking about grazing rights.
If nobody is talking about grazing rights, this fizzles out - and you’re helping it fizzle....but you get to beat your chest and call other folks not “pure” enough, so not all is lost.
No matter how often you want to repeat your lies, it doesn’t suddely make them true.
Why not post your drool on twitter. Try #promiseofhashtag. It’s about your speed.
Nor is Alan West?
Right?
Sigh. They are leaders who are Black. "Black leader" implies leadership within the Black community, which no conservative Black has (unfortunately).
This isn't worth arguing about.
When was Hage’s latest win? I would like to read about that if you have a source. I know his estate is actually fighting but had only heard of the one win that was a countersuit and the ruling in his favor was based on the way BLM treated him.
Pay attention to the gist of their posts and make a mental note of their screen names. Eventually, they all will out themselves. Threads such as this smoke them out.
Last June. I’m not exactly sure if this was the suit or not - probably was. But the ruling was much broader than just compensation for BLM’s bad behavior.
I’m so sorry you don’t understand what going on. I invite you not to read what I post, since it is beyond your comprehension.
Yes - you’re right that more experienced folks have run afoul of a voracious and predatory liberal machine and their lackey media. But they were victims of planned traps set for them.
I assume Bundy saw what happened to those other folks - he is, after all, very aware of the larger problem beyond his specific grazing rights issue - and it is frustrating to me that he didn’t even get led into the bog, he went there voluntarily.
BTW - I admire Cliven Bundy in what he’s doing, has done, and is trying to do...but I think he foolishly made a large strategic mistake.
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