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BLACK LEADER (Alan Keyes) SAYS NEVADA RANCHER BUNDY'S REMARKS NOT RACIST-It's the Truth
Liberty News ^ | 24 Apr 14 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 04/26/2014 10:39:08 AM PDT by xzins

A prominent black leader is coming to the defense of embattled Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who was pilloried on Thursday after the New York Times published a quote by him referencing slavery.

“He wasn’t talking so much about black folks, but about the harm and damage that the leftist socialism has done to blacks,” said former U.N. Ambassador Alan Keyes, who also is a columnist for WND.

Ammon Bundy, Cliven Bundy’s son, told WND that the quotes were taken out of context and that his father was commiserating over the poor situation in which blacks find themselves because of oppressive government programs, regulations and practices.

Keyes said that was evident.

“I find it appalling that we basically have a history of the leftist liberalism that wants to extinguish black people by abortion [and] destroying the family structure,” Keyes told WND. “All of these things if you just look at the effects, you would say this was planned by some racist madman to destroy the black community.”

Then when somebody comes along to comment on that damage, the leftists all scream “racism,” he said.

“I think it’s time somebody started to recognize the racism that exists in its effects – the hard leftist ideology using the black community for their sacrificial lamb, for their sick ideology. It’s time we called them what they are,” he said.

“Now it’s racist to point it out.”

(Excerpt) Read more at libertynewsonline.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; ammonbundy; blm; bobunruh; bundy; bundyracist; clivenbundy; harryreid; keyes; libertynews; media; nevada
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To: Norm Lenhart

And what you think is true.


141 posted on 04/26/2014 3:36:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Won’t argue that....Alan does not have much of a following within the community


142 posted on 04/26/2014 3:39:06 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: little jeremiah; Tammy8; GilesB; GOPJ
I am encouraged by the comments made here by the first three Freepers- thanks.

I just tuned into the T/V and hastened to inform all and sundry of yet another casualty or the anti-racism hit squads. This one is far more damaging. I found that GOP J has put in the link about an owner of the NBA Clippers. Oh me, oh my. (old country expression) Read on, and shudder.

143 posted on 04/26/2014 3:39:55 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: little jeremiah

I just have to wonder. I mean I know they have lists of us all and probably profiles to match each name. So why bother getting into it with people they know won’t play along?

Most Freepers aren’t libs or moderates. All it does in increase our determination every time a shill reads their script. But I guess they really aren’t that smart so that would explain it. I mean hell, they pushed Romney and now Jeb as ‘conservatives’ thinking someone would believe it. I mean actually ‘believe’ it.


144 posted on 04/26/2014 3:41:29 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: GilesB
Your post #134 well taken but.....

I do beg to differ in the criticism of Rancher Bundy. Sure he walked right into a hornets nest. I wonder if he used a computer to the effect that he was really well up on their methods? Look how Sarah Palin, an intelligent and savvy political figure, walked into a trap with Couric. The network edited her 18 times, before they showed what they deemed was most damaging. Look at what they did to decent guy Dan Quayle!

These were far more skilled and adept than Rancher Bundy. Anyway, we can agree to disagree. (cordially).

145 posted on 04/26/2014 3:50:23 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: GilesB

Doc would say you are just too high strung and the strain seems to be more than you can bear.

This is not about you. Bundy has been standing up to the feds on this issue for over 20 years. It is his stand. I never heard him say he was doing this for anyone else or that he thought of himself as someone to lead us against things we don’t agree with. Those who want to join him are free to and those that don’t are also free not to, for any reason at all. I doubt you even grasp what he is all about, what his issues are about, what his struggle is all about. Seems you are looking for someone to come and save all of us. That is like young girls waiting for a knight to come rescue them. There is no knight, and if one does happen to show up, I can assure you someone will have to clean up after his horse.

We each need to stand up for what is right and struggle against what is wrong. The problem with waiting for someone else to do it is it likely will never get done. There is no reason we can’t all stand against the way the BLM does things, the heavy handedness of the government, the militarization of the government. If it means so much to you, or to anyone they can call, email, write, speak out whenever possible. If enough of us care then change will happen.

When the Bundy story first broke on national news someone said it wasn’t about Bundy, cattle, or turtles. That is true, it is still about what it was always about. Why would you let the liberals distract you from the issues?


146 posted on 04/26/2014 3:51:42 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Tammy8

True enough - but Bundy was the face of this particular battle. I wish we all were more devoted to the cause than to the man - but look how the discussion has shifted away from the narrow, winnable property rights issue to a broad range of racism, slavery, liberal rules, RINOS and all government overreach.


147 posted on 04/26/2014 3:56:43 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: GilesB

Again. it hasnt and no matter how often you claim it has, there are more people talking about it today than before he made the comments. Fact. Game.Set.Match.


148 posted on 04/26/2014 3:59:20 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: GilesB

So why didn’t you bring your brother’s issues out and make a stand? Why have you not become that perfect leader with no flaws that you expect Bundy to be?

Why do we need to follow Bundy anywhere?


149 posted on 04/26/2014 3:59:40 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: xzins
He’s wrong about slavery keeping families together. It didn’t.

It did some of the time. Which is better than welfare rules which won't allow the mother to get benefits if her husband is present in the household. That requires the family be broken up.

150 posted on 04/26/2014 4:01:46 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: GilesB
The fight is a bout more than a few hundred head of cattle and one rancher. The fight is about government enslaving the population by doing things it has no Constitutional authority to do, from owning 85% of Nevada to running the Democrap Plantation and the entire HHS monstrosity.

Bundy merely pointed out another front in the war, one which affects millions of people, which has destroyed the progress the black community had made up into the mid 60s by destroying the black family with handouts and rules.

While not all black families are thus affected, the statistics clearly show that blacks have been severely negatively impacted by the "Great Society" and "the War on Poverty", which have subsidized illegitimacy, sloth, and the festering messes of the urban inner cities.

This is far bigger than any cattle ranch, and pointing out the problem (Federal Government) is on topic, if anyone takes a moment to think about it.

Rather than think, though, the supposed pundits have been scattered by the appearance of the word "racism", and many of the selfsame people who could have retained relevance in the political arena by doing a little research (and hearing the full set of remarks instead of the NYT edit) have exposed themselves as the knee-jerk types they really are, sans backbone, sans thought.

Whether people like the message or not, it is there, it is correct, and it is relevant to the issue of Federal overreach--fundamentally, the usurpation of power by the Federal Government over the daily lives of American Citizens. That he chose issues more destructive than screw shaped light bulbs and low-flow toilets makes the point no less germane.

151 posted on 04/26/2014 4:22:42 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Abso-freaking-lutely 100% dead nuts right.


152 posted on 04/26/2014 4:30:55 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: GilesB

Only if we let it.


153 posted on 04/26/2014 4:32:21 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: GilesB
If the issue is Federal overreach, pray tell where in US History has the Federal Government so overstepped its Constitutional authority as to spend trillions of dollars reaped at gunpoint from the pockets of productive Americans to be doled out to those who will live under certain prescribed conditions--to the point where those conditions make it extraordinarily difficult to be self-sufficient once one has lived under them to receive that 'aid'?

The entire Welfare State is Federal overreach. It is the 800 lb gorilla in the room, which everyone looks around because those who have suffered the most harm happen to be from a demographic which the architects of the plan have deemed to be beyond discussion.

Quit playing their tune and look at what is going on, will you?

154 posted on 04/26/2014 4:32:56 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: GilesB

As far as I know, the issue Hage won on was actually based on the unfair/illegal treatment he had received from the BLM, that they had systematically tried to put him out of business, etc. Hage used that in a countersuit. Hage fought on many issues, in different cases but that is the only one he won on. It was overturned later but that was his only winning issue to date.


155 posted on 04/26/2014 4:44:28 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: combat_boots

I’m surprised at how many believe that truth is determined by a court decision in the Bundy land case.

Have they forgotten that they disagree with Roe v Wade and many, many other court decisions?

We think they are wrong about the constitution, and that if the law supports them, then it is itself unconstitutional.

This is NOT an uncommon decision in the US of A.

“The courts decided so Bundy’s land claim must be wrong.”

Really? I didn’t know it worked that way around here.


156 posted on 04/26/2014 4:51:07 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

They do it “for the lurkers” and some are no doubt paid.

They also want to sow defeatism. Many of them post defeatist comments all the time.


157 posted on 04/26/2014 4:59:14 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Smokin' Joe; Norm Lenhart
Abso-freaking-lutely 100% dead nuts right.

TIMES 100!!!

158 posted on 04/26/2014 5:01:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Yea but they get made fools of. If they were doing it for the lurkers it an even dumber strategy than it looks like since the takeaway is that these people are blithering idiots.

I mean just look at the current example. Hammered on all sides, every argument refuted soundly and he sits there like he’s reading the script over and over. What lurker in their right mind could possibly leave this thread thinking his arguments won the day?

I can see the logic in playing to the crowd, sure. 100%. But not playing and looking like John Kerry while doing it.


159 posted on 04/26/2014 5:08:10 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Peter Libra; little jeremiah; Tammy8; GilesB

*the reply in case you missed it:

I knew Donald Sterling was a liberal elite - his hatred is that of a ‘superior’.... He probably has the same contempt for conservatives....

“Democrat Donor Donald Sterling Caught on Tape Spewing Racist Comments”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/04/democrat-donor-donald-sterling-caught-on-tape-spewing-racist-comments/


160 posted on 04/26/2014 6:16:35 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats are waging war on the middle class...)
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