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Low-carb ketogenic diet takes on low-fat diet for diabetes: Undisputed winner
Examiner ^ | April 23, 2014 | Samantha Chang

Posted on 04/24/2014 4:28:55 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 04/24/2014 4:28:55 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Big ‘ol facepalm.

News flash! Dedledledledle....Low carb diets help control diabetes!

Oy.


2 posted on 04/24/2014 4:39:46 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: neverdem

So you treat diabetes, but die of a heart attack from all that fat?

My cardiologist would call this BS.


3 posted on 04/24/2014 4:40:50 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: neverdem
The low-fat therefore high-carb diet
will cause Diabetes

4 posted on 04/24/2014 4:41:30 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: fatnotlazy

If your cardiologist would call this BS, then you probably need a new cardiologist.


5 posted on 04/24/2014 4:43:41 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: fatnotlazy

Just Observe....

To fatten cows and pigs....they feed the animals very high carb diet such as corn and grains....never blubber!

If eating fat caused you to become fat, why are’nt lions and tigers never fat while they eat the whole animal?


6 posted on 04/24/2014 4:50:38 PM PDT by entropy12 (Democrats win WH for one reason...welfare checks, food stamps and 143 more giveaways)
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To: fatnotlazy

From what I understand a low carb diet increases triglycerides and HDL. it apparently has a very good effect on lowering cholesterol. Go figure.


7 posted on 04/24/2014 4:51:47 PM PDT by bergmeid
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To: bergmeid

Low carb will decrease triglycerides and LDL. Increase HDL.


8 posted on 04/24/2014 4:59:36 PM PDT by mlo
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To: neverdem

They would do even better by becoming fat-adapted by using a high-fat, moderate-to-low protein, ultra-low carbohydrate diet. Metabolism will learn to burn primarily ketones instead of glucose. Pretty much eliminate starch and sugar to get there.

These studies typically call a diet “low-carb” if the non-fiber carbohydrates are under a certain number, such as 150 grams per day. To be truly low-carb or ketogenic they would have to be under 30 to 50 grams for most people.

The idea is to keep insulin levels very low. Too much carbohydrate or protein will require more insulin.


9 posted on 04/24/2014 5:03:35 PM PDT by Zuse
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To: fatnotlazy
"So you treat diabetes, but die of a heart attack from all that fat?"

The popular mythology is that when you eat fat it somehow goes through your stomach and floats around your bloodstream as cholesterol and clogs your arteries. That's not true.

What you eat goes through various digestive stages in your organs and is broken down and recombined into different compounds.

The cholesterol that stems from eating fat tends to be HDL (good cholesterol) that does not block arteries. Carbohydrates will raise LDL (bad cholesterol). When the "eating fat causes heart disease" hypothesis was first raised they did not distinguish types of cholesterol.

10 posted on 04/24/2014 5:13:48 PM PDT by mlo
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To: All; Mase

And now folks, an expert is going to come on here and tell us how stupid we are just for talking about this.


11 posted on 04/24/2014 5:29:03 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: fatnotlazy
IANAD, but the way I understand this is that high fat diets only cause artery-clogging issues when the fats are ALSO consumed in the presence of many carbs, e.g. your total calorie intake is too high.

The idea is that carbs are preferentially metabolized, the fats hang around in the blood and end up reacting and depositing places.

As far as I know, and from my own experience, low-carb/high-fat/ketogenic diets actually bring down blood cholesterol levels and all the associated things that are bad for your arteries.

The "lipid theory of heart disease" is well on its way to being debunked.

Also remember, fat doesn't turn into fat and make you fat, sugar (carbs) do.

12 posted on 04/24/2014 5:39:49 PM PDT by billakay
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Sorry but the “fat = heart disease” is right up there with global war mining.


13 posted on 04/24/2014 5:44:56 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: mlo

Atkins was correct.


14 posted on 04/24/2014 5:46:38 PM PDT by ChiMark (America no more)
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To: mlo

You are right. oops.


15 posted on 04/24/2014 6:00:19 PM PDT by bergmeid
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To: neverdem

So I can eat pork chops and well marbled steak?


16 posted on 04/24/2014 6:08:45 PM PDT by quietly desperate
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To: bergmeid
From what I understand a low carb diet increases triglycerides and HDL.

Just the opposite. It is the only diet that can bring high triglyceride levels down, while increasing HDL levels. The ratio of triglycerides to HDL is the "only" predictor of heart disease and not total cholesterol.
17 posted on 04/24/2014 7:08:42 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
And now folks, an expert is going to come on here and tell us how stupid we are just for talking about this.

LOL. Ancel Keys' spawn. I forget the other "expert" that is part of the tag team.
18 posted on 04/24/2014 7:11:32 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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Gee, he should be here by now. I hope nothing’s happened to him.


19 posted on 04/24/2014 8:29:18 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: fatnotlazy

Dr. Adkins was a cardiologist. Ivy League - Cornell Medical School and residency at Columbia.


20 posted on 04/24/2014 8:30:49 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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