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Cliven Bundy Just Ruined His Cause
National Journal ^ | 04/24/2014 | Brian Resnick

Posted on 04/24/2014 7:38:55 AM PDT by Rusty0604

After Bundy's overtly racist remarks, let's see how far politicians run away from him.

The New York Times has overheard Cliven Bundy—the Nevada rancher who, instead of paying decades of overdue grazing fees, met the Bureau of Land management with guns and a small militia—saying this:

"I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro," he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, "and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn't have nothing to do. They didn't have nothing for their kids to do. They didn't have nothing for their young girls to do.

"And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?" he asked. "They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I've often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn't get no more freedom. They got less freedom."

Expect every politician to back away from the issue.

"His remarks on race are offensive and I wholeheartedly disagree with him," Sen. Rand Paul said in a statement Thursday morning.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; bundyracist; bundyranch; clivenbundy; harryreid; hearsay; jumpedtheshark; nevada; newyorktimesbs; racist; randpaul
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To: cuban leaf

Good luck!


141 posted on 04/24/2014 8:34:57 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Lady Heron

“..Somehow, this just sets my BS meter off the charts. ..”

True enough. Mine too.

But they’ve studied their Goebbels very well, over there on the Left. Tell the lie often enough, and when enough people believe it, it becomes the truth.


142 posted on 04/24/2014 8:35:41 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Rusty0604

Meanwhile, Reid can call American’s “domestic terrorists”.


143 posted on 04/24/2014 8:35:49 AM PDT by dragonblustar ( Psalm 103, Psalm 37:7, Ephesians 6:12)
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To: Darksheare

They lie everyday.


144 posted on 04/24/2014 8:35:53 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: IronJack
The Slimes is a left-wing propaganda organ. Truth takes a back seat to discrediting its enemies. This is most likely as true as Dan Rather’s Guard story.

Cliven Bundy:

And speaking of cattle and the BLM, did I mention how I feel about Negroes?

Conservatives and Republicans have been trained to respond to the Racism dog-whistle just as much as Leftists...

145 posted on 04/24/2014 8:36:24 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: diamond6

Why? Was any of it untrue?


146 posted on 04/24/2014 8:36:24 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I read that as they’re on the same plantation. Except now their job is simply to vote Democrat. But they’re still slaves. As are the rest of us, soon.


147 posted on 04/24/2014 8:37:34 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: bmwcyle

Often they don’t get caught.


148 posted on 04/24/2014 8:37:37 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Rusty0604

We chastise the GOPe for their gutless responses to the Left and the media, but we somehow want to make excuses when we do it?

We are behaving no differently than the GOPe in this instance!

This is why we will never get our nation back. Where have the men gone?


149 posted on 04/24/2014 8:37:50 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: bboop

Lets put it all in perspective. The FEds descends in paramilitary fashion upon this guy’s ranch. Totally out of proportion. Then a NYT reporter overhears a very racist statement from said rancher.

this is to discredit the Tea Party right before the primaries!


150 posted on 04/24/2014 8:38:02 AM PDT by bergmeid
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To: tcrlaf

I looked at the Bundy ranch facebook, and he is being called “white trash” and everything else.

https://www.facebook.com/bundyranch


151 posted on 04/24/2014 8:39:08 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Darksheare

People pick up NYT and the WP everyday. It is proven time and time they don’t tell the truth or the whole truth but people still read them.


152 posted on 04/24/2014 8:40:02 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Rusty0604

Mr. Bundy speaks controversially about race once, resulting in ostracism and shunning by both opponents and now-former supporters.

Al Sharpton has been speaking controversially about race for decades, resulting in ostracism and shunning by only opponents, not his supporters.

What is wrong with this picture?


153 posted on 04/24/2014 8:40:37 AM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: tcrlaf
Doesn’t matter if it is true, or not..... It’s already on my Facebook, and the libs are just shaking with glee.

By tonight, it will be an indisputable urban legend, and the Media won’t say ANYTHING when the Feds come for him.

Yep. It's the ultimate Lefty flash-bang, just before the media SWAT team kicks the door in.

The Left has trained its conservative enemies to respond to the Racism dog whistle like Pavlov's dogs.

154 posted on 04/24/2014 8:41:00 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Rusty0604

There’s no tape recording (surprise) yet there are quotes allegedly made by him. Listen I’ve been around the meia for years. They usually record public speeches. They do it so they can accurately transcribe specific statements later for accuracy. Its just the way they operate. Trust me when I say this - If they had a recording like this they would put it out there to drive up their ratings and their online ad revenue. Its just common sense. If there’s no recording online in the next 24 hours you know its bogus and he should file a lawsuit against the NY Times. There have been incidences in the past where overzealous reporters created their own sensational stories for their own glorification. That could be what you have here.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/us/politics/rancher-proudly-breaks-the-law-becoming-a-hero-in-the-west.html


155 posted on 04/24/2014 8:41:05 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Ladysforest

Why the “ugh”?

Bundy was making a factual observation.

Under Democrats, Blacks have become welfare slaves.

Black ‘hoods have become the habitat of the welfare slut whelping bastard after bastard because the government pays her for such behavior. Because they are bastards, they were denied the positive influence of a father and grew up to be the Urban Ferals we see in the Black ‘hoods.

Bundy is correct - certainly not politically correct, but factually correct.

Google “perverse incentive” and I suggest you will agree with Mr. Bundy that welfare IS a perverse incentive.


156 posted on 04/24/2014 8:41:57 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: bergmeid

“The New York Times overheard. Stop right there.”

It’s stronger than The Gospel IMO. Considering how Dems and Conservatives are now all over this and are shocked and ashamed.

Oh, did you hear a few years ago a Jew who was a cop wannabe shot a 10 year old boy who was just eating candy and drinking cold tea?


157 posted on 04/24/2014 8:42:51 AM PDT by roofgoat
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To: Rusty0604
So what! He is an old timer. Brought up at a different time in America. Is this supposed to prove beyond a shadow that Mr. Bundy belongs to the KKK?

He was articulating an observation as cowboy might. Big deal.

I observe this very same thing as I drive out to my home from work every single day. A small plot of land with several dilapidated homes or trailers on it. Always notice multiple black folks sitting around drinking beer, kids playin, horses snubbed up to a nearby tree grazing and trash strewn everywhere...I mean everywhere.

My observation? Out of work negro’(black in Spanish) men with lil hope of employment, probably on some sort of government assistance, born and raised dependents and know no difference and apparently care little of their surroundings due to economic despair as evidenced by the mountains of garbage scattered about. Oh, did I mention...everywhere?

Now, articulating my observations this way is pretty much exactly as Bundy. So am I a racist? no, I am not. Just calling it like I see it. I believe in God's eyes we are all the same....HIS creation. This rancher would likely give a poor black man the shirt off his own back if he thought the man needed it. Throw down the race card. It is an age old commie tactic to demonize the opposition. Plain and simple.

158 posted on 04/24/2014 8:43:07 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: kiryandil

“The Left has trained its conservative enemies to respond to the Racism dog whistle like Pavlov’s dogs.”
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Sadly, even some FReepers hear this whistle loud and clear, and respond accordingly.


159 posted on 04/24/2014 8:43:07 AM PDT by Artcore
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To: bmwcyle

Same mentality as watching soap operas and reality shows, can’t look away from the train wreck.


160 posted on 04/24/2014 8:43:18 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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