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U.S. should send troops to quell Ukraine crisis
washingtonpost.com ^ | April 15, 2014 | James Jeffrey

Posted on 04/15/2014 10:41:46 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

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To: whatexit

I’m missing the justification for this. Are there endangered turtles or something?

Oh my gosh , good one! :-)


141 posted on 04/15/2014 12:23:07 PM PDT by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: BluH2o

Sending in troops is not even in the US contingency plans as an option. That would be the worst response.

The second worst response would be to ignore the reality and do nothing.

It’s time to shoot the Bear with a bean bag and make him feel the pain. We have many options.


142 posted on 04/15/2014 12:25:18 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: Constitution Day

Yeah, why don’t all you caring liberals volunteer to fight in the Ukraine?


143 posted on 04/15/2014 12:27:04 PM PDT by jayrunner
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To: KC_Lion; Himyar

Sorry about lack of food for troops but we gotta make sure DHS, etc has plenty of resources to stop right wing militia groups /s


144 posted on 04/15/2014 12:27:12 PM PDT by Augustinian monk (RAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: A Navy Vet
I agree with you points. I also think there's just an odd convergence of things here with the US run by thugs who want to keep the price of energy high, the EU dependent on gas from Russia, and the US suddenly having a lot of gas that's going to hit the market and drive energy prices in this country down unless there's a sudden cutoff of supplies from somewhere else.

When the average family can afford groceries and gasoline again with a few bucks a month left over, then maybe it would make sense to do for the Europeans what they should do for themselves.

I say we tell the Ukrainians, "If you like your country, you can keep it", and offer ammo along with more veggie MREs. In fact, just cutoff military aid to the Paks and every other Muzzie country then send it to the Ukraine. That's a fat wad of cash and equipment without costing an extra dime.

145 posted on 04/15/2014 12:27:56 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin
So, you're already in the Ukraine, in training, as a volunteer ? Good for you. How about some live shots of the action from the viewpoint of a grunt volunteer?

I don't understand the weird, juvenile schoolyard taunts. Do you go after Mafia kingpins or fight wildfires on a volunteer basis? That's why we pay taxes, so that people we employ with those taxes perform their specified duties. As citizens and the military's paymasters, we collectively decide what those duties ought to be, and this debate is all about what they ought to be doing.

146 posted on 04/15/2014 12:29:16 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Unlike civilian trade and government income interests, our infantry would love a gas fight with Russians. It probably won’t happen soon, though. That’s usually reserved for action during and after the nuclear exchange that will eventually be started by the Russians.


147 posted on 04/15/2014 12:34:04 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Mouton
Yes, I think the Walpo editorial board should go establish a beach head right now. Call when you get there.

Get them, the New York Slimes, the Chicago Tribune and the rest of the MSM and they can all follow John McCain, the biggest war monger in the history of Congress.

148 posted on 04/15/2014 12:34:46 PM PDT by hockeyfan44 (No more RINOS!!!)
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To: Orangedog
Great. Be sure to post when you decide to sack-up and go to the front line in Ukraine to save the free world.

I don't understand the weird, juvenile schoolyard taunts. Do you go after Mafia kingpins or fight wildfires on a volunteer basis? That's why we pay taxes, so that people we employ with those taxes perform their specified duties. As citizens and the military's paymasters, we collectively decide what those duties ought to be, and this debate is all about what they ought to be doing.

The issue isn't whether you should sign up with Putin's invaders or I should sign up with Ukraine's patriots - it's whether Russian territorial ambitions should be stopped here or much later on, when the costs will be much higher. The lesson of Munich is tumors should be excised before they metastasize.

149 posted on 04/15/2014 12:35:13 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

>Because the Russians are literally on the march

If you head on over now you can beat the rush to snuff out all the “crotch sniffing Putin lovers”. Let us know when they start marching on US territory and we will worry about it then.

Meanwhile people can stock up on used tires to keep the town squares warmed up.


150 posted on 04/15/2014 12:39:05 PM PDT by soycd
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To: soycd
If you head on over now you can beat the rush to snuff out all the “crotch sniffing Putin lovers”. Let us know when they start marching on US territory and we will worry about it then.

I don't understand the weird, juvenile schoolyard taunts. Do you go after Mafia kingpins or fight wildfires on a volunteer basis? That's why we pay taxes, so that people we employ with those taxes perform their specified duties. As citizens and the military's paymasters, we collectively decide what those duties ought to be, and this debate is all about what they ought to be doing.

The issue isn't whether you should sign up with Putin's invaders or I should sign up with Ukraine's patriots - it's whether Russian territorial ambitions should be stopped here or much later on, when the costs will be much higher. The lesson of Munich is tumors should be excised before they metastasize.

151 posted on 04/15/2014 12:41:13 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Sure,
And when you see Aztlan and Mecha forces doing the same thing in Dallas, we can wonder where they got the bombs.
152 posted on 04/15/2014 12:41:54 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Problem is...most don’t see where a direct confrontation with Russia doesn’t eventually involve nukes....whether we act now, or later.


153 posted on 04/15/2014 12:43:30 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: Zhang Fei

Don’t expect that you are conversing with people who have the perspective of history and comprehend the concepts of coercive force and appeasement.

You are dealing with mostly the Alex Jones crowd here who thought the Boston police and federal authorities were much too strong-handed in tracking down some terrorists...

But at the same time think Russia’s land-grab into Crimea and now the follow up operation to have a logistical bridge through Eastern Ukraine is just peachy.

There is some serious useful idiot isolationism and hypocrisy going on here.


154 posted on 04/15/2014 12:44:34 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: Zhang Fei
LOL.

So, you ain't goin' but you want someone else to.

Same as the brave guys were tickled to see me off to VN then go back to their college fun and games.

Some people are all hat and no cattle.

Nice hat

155 posted on 04/15/2014 12:45:08 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Zhang Fei

You are completely full of it. The fact that our taxes might be paying for military pay does NOT give us some sort of right to send them off as modern day mercenaries. The military is for the defense of OUR country, not people halfway across the world in a place most Americans couldn’t find on the map.


156 posted on 04/15/2014 12:46:21 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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To: rbmillerjr
Then go on the offensive and give money to the Chechnyans to hit the Russian people throughout Russia.

Brilliant idea! You're not from Boston, are you?

157 posted on 04/15/2014 12:47:24 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Mouton

>>Yes, I think the Walpo editorial board should go establish a beach head right now. Call when you get there.

I think we could generate quite a collection for plane tickets for that here at FR.


158 posted on 04/15/2014 12:50:37 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Rashputin
LOL. So, you ain't goin' but you want someone else to. Same as the brave guys were tickled to see me off to VN then go back to their college fun and games. Some people are all hat and no cattle. Nice hat

It might surprise you to hear this, but that's the way governments work. Soldiers don't decide where they feel like fighting. If you want to decide what battles you want to fight, don't sign up for the military. If you want to play with the latest hardware and pick your own battles, plan a coup in Pago Pago and establish yourself as head honcho. Then you can play to your heart's content.

159 posted on 04/15/2014 12:51:24 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: rbmillerjr

You’re right. People who are obviously more refined and discerning such as yourself should decide where our troops spill their blood. May we beg your forgiveness for daring to questioning your judgement in such matters?


160 posted on 04/15/2014 12:51:52 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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