Bundy’s case has been adjudicated and there was a court order to remove his cattle because he has NO LEGAL RIGHT to put them there.
My neighbor runs lots of cows - thousands. He can’t push his cows onto my land without my permission. I can be compensated for his cows grazing my pasture. He chooses to do this because it’s good business. He gets cheap feed to fatten his cows and I make a little bit for owning the land and it improves my pasture. He even treats my land for weeds as part of the deal.
How many ranchers do you know? I know a few. All of them don’t like the federal government - however, none of them think Bundy is a hero. Why is that? The people who do what he does for a living seem awfully silent. 1010RD is right - we can pick a hundred better battles than this guy.
I don’t like the government. You don’t like the government. However, this is not the hill for us to die on. This is about a man who knowingly profited from land that was not his while others honored their contractual agreement for grazing rights to the government, timber companies, or even private individuals like me.
We won’t starve without Bundy’s cows. All he had to do was pay the grazing rights - it’s not much and he could still have made a profit just like my neighbor.
The Guadalupe Hildago treaty is on Bundy’s side.
Even if Bundy had no claim to the land, there is absolutely no possibility that the feds do. Any land in private possession at the time the treaty was signed can never be government land.
We won’t starve without Bundy’s cows. All he had to do was pay the grazing rights - it’s not much and he could still have made a profit just like my neighbor.
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That sentence shows that you didn’t understand the point I was trying to make. I am not saying anything about heroes, heck, I didn’t even say the guy was 100% right.
But he’s not 100% wrong either. And my main point was that of the poor judgement of the government, highhanded methods of the government, the disengeiousness of the government, and the fact that the BLM stated and appeared to be ready to kill men, women and children over tresspassing - which last I heard was not a capital offense.
From the government’s own comments, they had other legal recourse, but instead they decided on an unwise course of action. As far as support, Bundy seemed to have plenty.
Now I could go on about mistakes etc that Bundy has made, and things that he could have or should have done differently, but that was not my concern either.
My concern is an overreaching Fedzilla and their minions who are more and more willing to treat the men, women, and children citizens of the USA like gun fodder over Tresspassing.
Meanwhile they allow Millions of illegals to tresspass all over the country, which includes criminals, drug cartels, slavers, and people with contagious diseases.
All of which is more threatening and harmful than a bunch of cows tresspassing and also costs the taxpayers a whole bunch more money that the measly fees for mediation.
Well, Bundy ain’t my kid nor is he kin, so his behavior is not my responsibility. However, what the government does is my responsibility, because they are supposed to be serving me and all the millions of other citizens, and I do care how they do whatever job they are supposed to be doing, and they ain’t exactly coming up smelling like roses.
Now, thanks for your opinion, but to me there’s lots more to this than he should have paid his fees. Obviously, you can’t get beyond that. It takes 2 to tango, and Bundy ain’t perfect, but neither is the government.
Now I am done with the coversation, because there is no point to it. It will likely just lead to both of us repeating various statements adnauseum, and then someone start getting personal and resorts to name calling. So I’m done. Have a nice night.