FOUNDING FATHERS MADE SURE BUNDY FAMILY WAS ARMED

Breitbart ^ | April 14, 2014 | by AWR HAWKINS

[Jim Robinson]

As tensions rose and a standoff ensued between Bureau of Land Management (BLM) agents and Cliven Bundy and his family on April 11th and 12th, one thing was evident: through the Second Amendment, the Founding Fathers guaranteed that Bundy could be armed to protect his life and property.

KLAS-TV described a meeting between armed federal agents and armed Bundy family members during one of the highest points of tension.

No guns were misused nor were any used offensively. However, guns were present because of our Founding Fathers' forethought.

We do not have guns for the purposes of sporting or hunting--although guns are certainly fine tools for those activites. We have them, rather, because our Founding Fathers recognized a God-given right to keep and bear arms to protect our lives, families, and property. This right is not simply to provide protection from burglary or life-threatening attacks, but from tyranny as well--tyranny within or without our borders.

[Big Red Badger]

No Wacos

[BuffaloJack]

Is there any truth to the rumor that the Feds have gone back on their word and are re-arriving back on the Bundy Ranch?

[Paine in the Neck]

Capt. John Parker is a Cowboy Minuteman today in honor of the Bundy Ranch heroes

[DannyTN]

I don't know guys.

I wasn't able to get riled up about this. It still sounds like the government was within their rights and have even been astoundingly patient with the Bundy's over the last 20-25 years.

• It sounds like the government made a mistake and went overkill with the restrictions related to the turtoise, but even that was within their rights.
• It sounds like Bundy gave up the legal high ground by not paying the grazing fees, when all the other ranchers did.
• It's not clear to me if this came to a head because it had been 25 years or because of Fracking rights or because of Reid's chinese treachery.
• The one good thing I see coming out of this is the spotlight on Reid's Chinese sell out.

[Jack Hydrazine]

At the rate the District of Criminals is going there will be another Waco and with the American population as p.o.ed as it is at the POTUS, Congress, politics and politicians (plus the direction our country is going in on all levels) in general it will have picked a fight, resulting in a conflagration, that DC wished they would have never started.

Change is coming and the collectivists are desperate to forward the last bit of their agenda in order to lock in their rule, but their time is short and they know it.

[Cats Pajamas]

Maybe you are right. Maybe its all lost already.

[Paine in the Neck]

IIRC, about 20% of the American colonists fought or were active in some manner against the British during the fight for independence.

It depends on who gets counted. Three Per Cent: "During the American Revolution, the active forces in the field against the King's tyranny never amounted to more than 3% of the colonists. They were in turn actively supported by perhaps 10% of the population. In addition to these revolutionaries were perhaps another 20% who favored their cause but did little or nothing to support it."

[B4Ranch]

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[Lou Budvis]

Agree 100%. Does Bundy have 2 decades of cashed checks for grazing fees? No. He has court orders telling him he was wrong long before the Chinese thought of getting into the solar energy biz.

I thought conservatism was for rational, objective thought and respect for the rule of law.

[Covenantor]

I’ve come around to your point of view since more photos, videos, and first person accounts have surfaced. Haven’t abandoned the political links to hoary reed, but too many accounts indicate this was orchestrated from the WH and plans had been in place for a while.

BLM retreated because:
* outmanned
* outgunned
* despite choking MSM news got out
EVERY body had cell phone cams & videos
* out maneuvered by ad hoc patriot responders

BLM thought they had a relatively remote and isolated victim ripe for easy pickings. Instead, like Custer, they were asking themselves, WTF did all all those indians come from? BLM had one plan that citizen mass blew all to hell. Nice example of asymmetric warfare.

Any blood shed by the BLM would have resulted, IMO, severe casualties all around with BLM survivors being captured along with all ground material; weapons, comms, vehicles, etc. Total BFD catastrophe. No way MSM could be held on their leashes in such circumstances. Ripples from such an event would travel far.

In this instance citizen response was local supported by social media etc. Next time the response will be dispersed. Reactions will occur n different locales. If they pull the bulk of their personnel for another assault, they can expect the stripped down offices and facilities to be looked at in a new light. Citizen intel efforts I’m sure are compiling and distributing lists. Establishing secure means of communication etc.

[B4Ranch]

This here is rolling_stone’s post at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3143996/posts?page=136#136

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Bundy relies on NRS 321.59 which has not been fully adjudicated.

NRS 321.596 Legislative findings. The Legislature finds that:

1. The State of Nevada has a strong moral claim upon the public land retained by the Federal Government within Nevada’s borders because:

(a) On October 31, 1864, the Territory of Nevada was admitted to statehood on the condition that it forever disclaim all right and title to unappropriated public land within its boundaries;

(b) From 1850 to 1894, newly admitted states received 2 sections of each township for the benefit of common schools, which in Nevada amounted to 3.9 million acres;

(c) In 1880 Nevada agreed to exchange its 3.9-million-acre school grant for 2 million acres of its own selection from public land in Nevada held by the Federal Government;

(d) At the time the exchange was deemed necessary because of an immediate need for public school revenues and because the majority of the original federal land grant for common schools remained unsurveyed and unsold;

(e) Unlike certain other states, such as New Mexico, Nevada received no land grants from the Federal Government when Nevada was a territory;

(f) Nevada received no land grants for insane asylums, schools of mines, schools for the blind and deaf and dumb, normal schools, miners’ hospitals or a governor’s residence as did states such as New Mexico; and

(g) Nevada thus received the least amount of land, 2,572,478 acres, and the smallest percentage of its total area, 3.9 percent, of the land grant states in the Far West admitted after 1864, while states of comparable location and soil, namely Arizona, New Mexico and Utah, received approximately 11 percent of their total area in federal land grants.

2. The State of Nevada has a legal claim to the public land retained by the Federal Government within Nevada’s borders because:

(a) In the case of the State of Alabama, a renunciation of any claim to unappropriated lands similar to that contained in the ordinance adopted by the Nevada constitutional convention was held by the Supreme Court of the United States to be “void and inoperative” because it denied to Alabama “an equal footing with the original states” in Pollard v. Hagan, 44 U.S. (3 How.) 212 (1845);

(b) The State of Texas, when admitted to the Union in 1845, retained ownership of all unappropriated land within its borders, setting a further precedent which inured to the benefit of all states admitted later “on an equal footing”; and

(c) The Northwest Ordinance of 1787, adopted into the Constitution of the United States by the reference of Article VI to prior engagements of the Confederation, first proclaimed the “equal footing” doctrine, and the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, by which the territory including Nevada was acquired from Mexico and which is “the supreme law of the land” by virtue of Article VI, affirms it expressly as to the new states to be organized therein.

3. The exercise of broader control by the State of Nevada over the public lands within its borders would be of great public benefit because:

(a) Federal holdings in the State of Nevada constitute 86.7 percent of the area of the State, and in Esmeralda, Lincoln, Mineral, Nye and White Pine counties the Federal Government controls from 97 to 99 percent of the land;

(b) Federal jurisdiction over the public domain is shared among 17 federal agencies or departments which adds to problems of proper management of land and disrupts the normal relationship between a state, its residents and its property;

(c) None of the federal lands in Nevada are taxable and Federal Government activities are extensive and create a tax burden for the private property owners of Nevada who must meet the needs of children of Federal Government employees, as well as provide other public services;

(d) Under general land laws only 2.1 percent of federal lands in Nevada have moved from federal control to private ownership;

(e) Federal administration of the retained public lands, which are vital to the livestock and mining industries of the State and essential to meet the recreational and other various uses of its citizens, has been of uneven quality and sometimes arbitrary and capricious; and

(f) Federal administration of the retained public lands has not been consistent with the public interest of the people of Nevada because the Federal Government has used those lands for armament and nuclear testing thereby rendering many parts of the land unusable and unsuited for other uses and endangering the public health and welfare.

4. The intent of the framers of the Constitution of the United States was to guarantee to each of the states sovereignty over all matters within its boundaries except for those powers specifically granted to the United States as agent of the states.
5. The attempted imposition upon the State of Nevada by the Congress of the United States of a requirement in the enabling act that Nevada “disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within said territory,” as a condition precedent to acceptance of Nevada into the Union, was an act beyond the power of the Congress of the United States and is thus void.

6. The purported right of ownership and control of the public lands within the State of Nevada by the United States is without foundation and violates the clear intent of the Constitution of the United States.

7. The exercise of such dominion and control of the public lands within the State of Nevada by the United States works a severe, continuous and debilitating hardship upon the people of the State of Nevada.

(Added to NRS by 1979, 1362)

http://law.justia.com/codes/nevada/2010/title26/chapter321
/nrs321-596.html

136 posted on Sunday, April 13, 2014 8:03:24 PM by rolling_stone

[skimbell]

And ice tea. Don't forget the ice tea that he and Katherine struggle to keep us supplied with while we read all of the adventures of Rush Revere!

[deoetdoctrinae]

Outstanding!

[TauntedTiger]

Three and half hours and no mention of new folk hero Clevin Bundy.

[Cats Pajamas]

I never bought any of his tea and damn well won’t now.

[TauntedTiger]

Whoops - 2.5 hours and no mention of Bundy.

[Jack Hydrazine]

“Establishing secure means of communication, etc.”

Become a amateur radio operator. All sorts of alternative means of communication is available then.

You have Morse Code, radio teletype, packet radio, voice, bouncing signals off of the Moon and amateur radio satellites in orbit (known as the OSCAR satellites), etc.

[Cats Pajamas]

Got my subscription renewal by email last week. Just deleted it. If I listen at all anymore it will be for free via the radio. Bunkerville was my Bunkerhill with Rush Revere.

[Cats Pajamas]

Jack, I am fascinated. Any advice how to get started? I always wanted to learn Morse code but I could really get into bouncing signals off the moon to help the conservative cause even though I’m a girl.

[fulltlt]

Just out at luch time heard El Rushbo talking about the puff piece in the Washingtonian about Jay Carney and Clare Shipman.

Sounds like EL Rushie is out of touch with what's happening. That was old news.