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Oklahoma-Texas border dispute has ranchers worried (BLM also pushing Texas Red River Range War)
Red TV ^ | Apr 10, 2014 | RFD-TV News Staff

Posted on 04/11/2014 6:43:06 AM PDT by xzins

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To: lonevoice

ping!


21 posted on 04/11/2014 7:54:14 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: dangus

Exactly. It’s either part of Texas or part of Oklahoma, it is not part of the BLM.

River movements happen all the time on state boundaries and they are worked out by the courts. I know this because Iowa has three rivers that form it’s boundaries and they have won court cases when the river shifted.

What legal right does the BLM have if there is no federal lands in question here?


22 posted on 04/11/2014 8:04:01 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: xzins

“How can BLM come in and say, “Hey, this isn’t yours.”

Easy they come in with heavily armed goons and say “hey this isn’t yours”.


23 posted on 04/11/2014 8:04:05 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: MrB
I wouldn’t think they’d want to divide their efforts, but on the other hand, they may be seeking to divide the response of the Oathkeepers, etc.

Having a lot of "smaller" issues makes it harder for the people focus on them, and pull themselves away from the Idiot Box (TV) and their favorite show.

Having a major event, would cause a lot more people to sit up and possibly rally. Just look at the overwhelming sense of unity that happened on 9/11. It take a week or so for some to resort back to their brain dead ways, but I'm sure they'd probably prefer to not any sense of unity at all.

Also, smaller events are easier to make it seem like it is just a fringe element.

24 posted on 04/11/2014 8:28:08 AM PDT by voicereason (The RNC is like the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: Free Vulcan
"Exactly. It’s either part of Texas or part of Oklahoma, it is not part of the BLM."

I'm guessing that the feds claim the shore line of any navigable body of water. And once claimed they do not give up the claim even if the shore line moves. Below is the money quote from the article.

"Originally, here the river was out there where it is now and it eroded and accreted up to here, and then it eroded and accreted back. Well, their interpretation is that it eroded up to here but avulsed back. So when you listen to them it is always erosion to the south because the property line follows it then, but it’s always avulsion when it goes north. So the boundary can move south but it can never move back north," said Henderson."

25 posted on 04/11/2014 8:31:22 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: jpsb

I know Iowa is bordered by the Missouri, Missisippi, and Des Moines. The Army Core of Engineers is in charge of the lock and dam systems, and barge navigation, but the states own the territory.

Sounds like the BLM is doing is making a claim on some 30 year old court case, not an Act of Congress or any law passed thereby. Their mission is not the land acquisition business, it’s the land management business. They are beyond their mission: rogue, lawless, predatory, and terroristic. However, I’m sure the courts will side with them.


26 posted on 04/11/2014 9:00:15 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: xzins

They actively want Middle Americans to kill other Middle Americans.


27 posted on 04/11/2014 9:14:24 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Free Vulcan

Well perhaps someone can explain on what basis the BLM is claiming the land. I took my best shot, sadly it appears I was off target. lol


28 posted on 04/11/2014 9:18:26 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: jpsb

I think you’re right. Rivers are already public, but they want to control the land access to rivers....water.

Interesting

Another possibility is that they just want to take what they think they can get away with taking.


29 posted on 04/11/2014 9:22:39 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: TBP

They would love a crisis


30 posted on 04/11/2014 9:29:50 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Yes, then they could crack down. The bottom-up, top-down strategy.


31 posted on 04/11/2014 9:39:08 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: xzins

Both of your eyes are wide open! Not many see the truth for what it is.


32 posted on 04/11/2014 10:09:16 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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This has been a problem on the Mississippi forever. There are islands that jump from one state to the other as the current changes.

But this is the first time that I know of that the BLM is involved. The feds’ involvement is all part of Agenda 21.


33 posted on 04/11/2014 10:41:53 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Pride in the USA

The BLM is poking a bear when they mess with Texas.


34 posted on 04/11/2014 10:44:21 AM PDT by lonevoice (We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
We can defend ourselves. I guarantee it.

They have Abrams tanks and Apache helicopters and aren't afraid to use them against citizens.

Think about Waco.


35 posted on 04/11/2014 7:29:23 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The future ain't what it use to be -- Yogi Berra)
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To: xzins

“Don’t Mess With Texas!”


36 posted on 04/21/2014 2:19:37 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: xzins

What goes with BLM is that the Chicoms are now calling in all the debt money that Obama and his minions/enablers were able to draw on to become millionaires. These Chinese entrepreneurs are very anxious to get land in the USA and there are plenty of so called citizens willing to shill for them. There needs to be a very deep look at the likes of Las Vegas money people who some like Addelson are willing to sell out the USA. This story is like an iceberg.


37 posted on 04/21/2014 4:44:18 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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