Posted on 04/09/2014 8:28:06 AM PDT by xzins
Armed federal agents deployed last week to northeast Clark County, Nev., for what can only be described as a major escalation in a decades-long standoff between a local cattle rancher and the U.S. government.
.Cliven Bundy, the last remaining rancher in the southern Nevada county, stands in defiance of a 2013 court order demanding that he remove his cattle from public land managed by the U.S. Department of the Interior’s Bureau of Land Management.
The 67-year-old veteran rancher, who has compared the situation to similar confrontations with government officials in Ruby Ridge and Waco, Texas, told TheBlaze that his family has used land in the 600,000-acre Gold Butte area since the late 1800s.
“I have raised cattle on that land, which is public land for the people of Clark County, all my life. Why I raise cattle there and why I can raise cattle there is because I have preemptive rights,” he said, explaining that among them is the right to forage.
“Who is the trespasser here? Who is the trespasser on this land? Is the United States trespassing on Clark County, Nevada, land? Or is it Cliven Bundy who is trespassing on Clark County, Nevada, land? Who’s the trespasser?”
Claiming that all other options have been exhausted, the Bureau of Land Management and the U.S. National Park Service responded to Bundy’s inflexibility on the issue by calling on federal agents and contract cowboys to restrict access to the public land and to confiscate Bundy’s “trespass cattle.”
.“Cattle have been in trespass on public lands in southern Nevada for more than two decades. This is unfair to the thousands of other ranchers who graze livestock in compliance with federal laws and regulations throughout the West,” the Bureau of Land Management stated on its website about the case.
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Waco revisited?
“Waco revisited?”
No comparison at all.
Will the government be as tough on Cliven Bundy as they are on Vlad Putin?
Within your rights and shot to death by cops is quick becoming a familiar feature of life and early death in the Untied States.
Dude needs to stand down and go with his life. He is going to be victimized. Better to cut losses and live. This is not ground worth dying for.
Save it for another day.
From a Las Vegas station;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxiCA9AK_8k
Some locals show up;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsS8zXkrrCI
I said the gov would fire upon American citizens. I take it back. It has already happened.
But it looks like they are ready to do it again. There will be a flimsy excuse, which the media will do its best to promote.
I don’t think the Fed should own anything except their own buildings and military installations. Indian reservations should be honored as set-asides.
What did Jefferson do with the Louisianna Purchase?
While I beleive the use of such level of force is not warrented, the rancher is the source of the problem here.
It is not his land and he has not paid the fees to use the land. In other words, he is squatting on the land with his cattle.
I fail to see where the rancher has a legal leg to stand on.
If he is correct that his family has used that land since the 1800’s, then he has standing, the same as right of way.
YET...
That would be the F—k You!
-clause.
That's the same clause that's used in things like Prop-8 going to the USSC: F—k You!
That's the same clause that's used to justify federal agencies running guns to drug cartels: F—k You!
That's the same clause that's used to allow the president to modift at-will the Affordable Care Act: F—k You!
That's the same clause that's used to allow congress to refuse to pass a budget, as required by law, for years on-end w/o consequence: F—k You!
and so forth.
Seriously, at this point in time it'd be easier to list what actions the federal government takes that are condoned by the Constitution.
So...where do you draw your line?
Maybe not for you, but it appears to be for him.
He’s on his own...They kill him and or throw him in a cage, and seize everything he’s ever owned...
USG gone full *wild*, who can stop the beast?
No, he doesn’t.
His family has used this land with permission of the rightful owner, under an agreement and with payment of a fee since the days of open range ended.
Cliven Bundy refused to sign a new agreement for use of the land twenty years ago, because he disagreed with the new terms and higher grazing fee.
If you use someone else’s land under an agreement requiring payment for use, and then decide you want to keep using it without an agreement or payment, you have no right to do so, whether the land owner is a private citizen or the federal government.
This graphic explains why Texas if it were a country will soon be the 8th largest producer of oil and gas in the world and other states west aren’t.
I am curious as to why the conservatives have not gathered in large numbers and simply walked through the “barriers” on the roads. Allowing the Fedzilla “Armed & Dangerous” to act away from the public’s eye is an invitation to another Waco.
Once before, the Shovel Brigade opened a road “closed” by abusive bureaucrats. IF the Armed & Rangerous are not planning murder, why close off the roads?
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