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The Poverty Hoax: Cases of Destitution in America are the Exception.
American Thinker ^ | 04/08/2014 | John Dietrich

Posted on 04/08/2014 7:11:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A major concern of progressives is their supposed interest in the fate of the poor. They purport to be the champions of the poor. But the truth is that they need the poor more than the poor need them, in a symbiotic relationship. As much as 75% of the money allocated to the poor is consumed by the vast bureaucracies that administer this aid.

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What is poverty? The late political scientist Edward Banfield provided four degrees of poverty: destitution, which is lack of income sufficient to assure physical survival and to prevent suffering from hunger, exposure, or remediable or preventable illness; want, which is lack of enough income to support essential welfare; hardship, which is lack of enough to prevent acute persistent discomfort or inconvenience. To this he added a fourth: relative deprivation which is a lack of enough income, status, or whatever else may be valued to prevent one from feeling poor in comparison to others. This last category is elastic enough to include millionaires who covet the possessions and power of billionaires. One important category of poverty Banfield does not mention is psychological or spiritual poverty. This is the most significant form of poverty in an affluent society when physical needs are easily met.

Where do America's "poor" stand in this scale of poverty? In a nation of over 300 million people there are undoubtedly cases of destitution, want and hardship. However, these cases appear to be the exception. As former Secretary of Agriculture Dan Glickman stated, "More people die in the United States of too much food than of too little." According to William Bennett, "Poor people in America have a higher standard of living than middle-class Americans of previous generations."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: destitution; poverty
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Thanks, you just bumped me up to upper middle class.


21 posted on 04/08/2014 9:31:31 AM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: MrB
Then why are there people still in the bottom quintile, huh, smart guy? Do you think that’s fair?
(/libthink /sarc)
As Thomas Sowell points out, there is no shame in having a bottom quintile, if - as is the case in America - being in the bottom quintile is strongly negatively correlated with age. You could have a society in which everyone at any given age made the same amount of money - but in which everyone gets an equal raise annually. In such a society everyone would have identical prospects when born - but there could be more or less radical difference between the lowest-quintile youngsters and the highest-paid seniors.

22 posted on 04/08/2014 1:03:22 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

You took me WAAAAY too seriously.

I was pointing out the intellectual vapidity of the left’s “caring about the pooowuh”.


23 posted on 04/08/2014 1:22:12 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Little Ray

Some 87% of the world’s population lives below the US “poverty line”.
Half the world’s population lives on less than $2/day.
If you’re doing better than 9 out of 10 people on the planet, or even just half, you’re not poor.

Author makes good categories. “Destitution” and “want” are poor; “hardship” and “relative deprivation” are not.

Haiti has poverty, as there is nowhere near enough natural resources to support the population, and moving elsewhere is nigh unto impossible for most. Here, the problem isn’t resources, it’s the will to survive.


24 posted on 04/08/2014 1:44:12 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: dfwgator

Thank You. I lived in southern CA until I was eleven. I used to complain to my dad that I was “tired of being poor” since I didn’t have all the stuff other kids had.

One weekend he put us all in the car and drove us to Tijuana. I never complained again.


25 posted on 04/08/2014 1:50:21 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I support Joe Carr in the TN GOP Primary against Lamar!)
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To: Excellence

Statiscally of course. Every family in the US could earn $100K a year and there would still be a bottom quintile.


26 posted on 04/08/2014 1:51:48 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I support Joe Carr in the TN GOP Primary against Lamar!)
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To: MrB
I didn’t overlook the </sarcasm> but I just wanted to assure that no newbie or lurker lacked understanding of the “lowest quintile” non-issue.
27 posted on 04/08/2014 2:09:40 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: All

Shabazz Napier is the name if the person I was trying to think of. Something wrong there. Maybe he just mismanages his money. But his parents could send a care package or a little cash. Worse comes to worse, there are food banks, free meals at churches, etc.


28 posted on 04/08/2014 5:27:15 PM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: crazycatlady
Dear crazycatlady,

During the school year, Mr. Napier has an all-you-can-eat meal plan at his college, as reported by his college.

Of course, the cafeteria is only open 12 hours per day, so maybe he just gets a little peckish in the very early morning hours before breakfast.


sitetest

29 posted on 04/09/2014 6:26:10 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: SeekAndFind

the media (they are not main stream just well established in NYC’s media hub) is pushing these stories.

Today and yesterday NPR had nothing but glowing praise anecdote stories about the incredible wonderfulness of obamacare. 100% pure boldfaced lies in the face of reality but that did not matter.

(BTW time for NPR’s tax exempt status to end)


30 posted on 04/09/2014 6:29:25 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: sitetest

Thanks. I was hoping that a thread would be devoted to school athlete unionization issue and Mr. Napier’s problems, but evidently not

These days any time I see a push for unionization of ANYTHING, I assume its because the unions are losing so much influence, they’re trying to grab it where they can.


31 posted on 04/09/2014 2:33:47 PM PDT by crazycatlady
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