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To: kabar

I can be persuaded that we should deport them all. I guess compassion is getting the best of me, because I know how much they want to stay here, what a wonderful country this is to live in, as opposed to the gangs and other chaos of Mexico.

Deportation of all of them is almost a tactical impossibility too, without starting a whole snitching and Gestapo-type culture. I guess I just feel if we could really close the border, the problem would work itself out in time. Meanwhile, anyone caught it identity theft or any other crime would be deported.

I understand your point of view. It’s encouraging others to sneak in if we don’t deport everyone. I’m rambling. It’s kind of late. But those are my thoughts right now.


184 posted on 04/03/2014 2:32:59 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand
Deportation of all of them is almost a tactical impossibility too, without starting a whole snitching and Gestapo-type culture.

You seem to be buying the pro-amnesty crowd line using the false choice between mass deportation versus a blanket amnesty. There is another alternative called attrition thru enforcement. The lawbreakers did not get here overnight and they won't leave overnight. We must make the US as unwelcoming as we can for illegal aliens. Cut off the job magnet, eliminate all benefits, enlist the aid of state and local law enforcement to enforce our immigration laws, etc. The last thing we should be doing is legalizing their presence.

Your use of the word Gestapo is particularly offensive. It is a tactic of the Left to use such emotion laden pejoratives to brand those of us who believe in the Rule of Law as bigots, fascists, and nativists. The illegal aliens are not the same as Jews fleeing from the Holocaust. No one is advocating rounding up the illegals and putting them on rail cars to concentration camps.

I guess I just feel if we could really close the border, the problem would work itself out in time.

Securing the border only solves part of the problem. 40% of the illegals get here legally and then overstay their visas. We need internal enforcement of our immigration laws. That is the way the "problem" will work itself out.

We had an amnesty in 1986. The proponents said it would be one-time, never to happen again and that it would solve our illegal immigration problem. The government estimated that one million would apply, but the true number turned out to be 2.7 million--almost three times the estimate. The process was rife with fraud with phony documents being manufactured just blocks away from processing centers.

So now there is another call for amnesty out of compassion. We now have 12 to 20 million illegal aliens. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

186 posted on 04/03/2014 7:19:09 AM PDT by kabar
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To: firebrand
Deportation of all of them is almost a tactical impossibility too, without starting a whole snitching and Gestapo-type culture.

Almost? Try GUARANTEED BLOODSHED in the streets, open civil war, especially here in So Cal., and you are exactly right, a Gestapo-type culture.

There's a better way. Axe the minimum wage and end the government-sponsored freebies that "minority" immigrants (legal or not) now get, and ENOUGH WILL DEPORT THEMSELVES that then, forced deportation of the remaining illegals would be doable. As it is now, forced deportation would do nothing but cause open bloodshed and civil war and a lot of very good, righteous people would be killed.

187 posted on 04/03/2014 7:57:56 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: firebrand

The Mexicans should be deported without exception. However, as you pointed out there may be practical problems with such action.


195 posted on 04/03/2014 11:51:47 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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