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PA:Robbers Killed by an Armed Citizen, Now The Families Want To Sue
usconcealedcarry.com ^ | 24 March, 2014 | Kevin Michalowski

Posted on 03/31/2014 6:30:00 AM PDT by marktwain

Sad but true, this is the way it works in the United States. Two men entered a convenience store, pointed their guns at the clerk, and robbed the store. As they exited the store, an armed citizen confronted them. The robbers pointed their guns at the honest citizen and he shot and killed both of them.

Now the family of one of the dead robbers wants “justice.” They want to sue the honest citizen. And leave it to the media to give the families of armed robbers a forum.

In what has become a cliché, the mother of an armed robber takes to the airwaves to say, “He was a good boy.” This family then has the nerve to say the robbers didn’t deserve to be shot; that an honest citizen had no right to fire at two “boys” who pointed their guns at him. The family then goes on to say that while their boy was a known drug user, he likely only robbed the store so he could get money to pay his child support. It is a seven-minute video, but it should make your blood boil:

And Now They Want to Sue…

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; defense; pa; robbery
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To: BitWielder1

“If they manage to sue, they should lose and end up paying all the court and legal costs.”

They would need to do a bigger robbery to get the money.


81 posted on 03/31/2014 8:26:16 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: JoeProBono

Just think of what a nice splash pattern she’d make after being dropped from a huey say at 2000ft on to a parking lot.


82 posted on 03/31/2014 8:26:36 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
If you watch the video until the end, it’s states the hero is protected from being sued by the castle doctrine.

Ahhhh. Now this "news story" makes a little more sense to me. The lawsuit has nothing to do with the self defense shooting of two armed thugs. This is a move to challenge the Castle Doctrine law again. This is suppose to be an activism case brought on by a radical attorney no doubt.

83 posted on 03/31/2014 8:27:27 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: Tenacious 1

In keeping with one of the core promises of liberalism - there should be no consequences for behavior choices, including theft and violence.


84 posted on 03/31/2014 8:28:55 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: BeadCounter

The lawyers who filed this case should be jointly liable for all attorney fees and costs. It is frivolous.


85 posted on 03/31/2014 8:35:53 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: marktwain

Better they should follow their peeps to hell.


86 posted on 03/31/2014 8:38:44 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: NorthMountain
About Self Defense Insurance. I spoke to an insurance agent about this many years ago (it may be different now) while we were putting together a homeowner's policy. He's a gun enthusiast too. The discussion first danced around any "risk consideration" associated with having guns in the house. But it moved to insuring the firearms. Apparently, the insurance industry has a clearer picture of the risk of having firearms in the home as it really doesn't affect the premiums (at least mine back then). I also asked about costs associated with a self defense action in the home.

The clean up (the mess) and damages would be covered but not any legal costs associated with an incident (unless it was in the insurance company's best interest to recover damages). We debated it a bit and he made a good point. You might not want your home owners policy covering your legal position. If you are found "at fault" for any part of the damages, the insurer may be able to deny some portion of a claim they may owe you otherwise. There may actually be a conflict of interest. In other words, if a civil suit were to find that you used excessive force in your defense, they may not have to pay for the mess or damages (bullet holes, broken doors, windows, etc.) associated with the incident. They may be motivated to root against you.

It was hypothetical consideration and casual conversation. But it was an interesting angle. With all the changes in laws today, I am not sure how relevant any of this would be.

87 posted on 03/31/2014 8:39:48 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: marktwain

Let me take a”Wild”Guess?The Robbers were Black so this is ALL about RACISM???


88 posted on 03/31/2014 8:41:45 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: Track9

What makes you think these people pay taxes or even file a tax form?


89 posted on 03/31/2014 8:42:12 AM PDT by petercooper ("I was for letting people keep their health insurance, before I wasn't". --- Barack Obama)
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To: Scrambler Bob
Cost of bullets would be very high, considering today’s availability.

You would have to include the labor cost of loading the bullets into the "magazine" as well. $30 for the bullets, $50,000 to load them.

90 posted on 03/31/2014 8:43:07 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: marktwain
the families of the dead robbers can still file their paperwork. This means the honest citizen will still have to respond in some way. He may rack up legal fees while the courts move to dismiss the case.

Why on earth would he have to lift a finger if the state of Pennsylvania doesn't allow such suits?
91 posted on 03/31/2014 8:43:38 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto; All

Armed Citizens and the Modern Frontier

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/05/armed-citizens-and-modern-frontier.html


92 posted on 03/31/2014 8:50:41 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Therapsid

There are some products out there, not exactly insurance...


93 posted on 03/31/2014 8:54:21 AM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: petercooper

As I understand it, each dependent is worth 3 or 4 thousand per year and if you’re low income and not paying any taxes anyway, this comes back as a check. There’s a lot of incentive for these people to file a return. In fact it’s a huge racket to the tune of billions each year.. and that’s on top of the welfare checks and services they get each month.


94 posted on 03/31/2014 8:58:33 AM PDT by Track9 (hey Kalid.. kalid.. bang you're dead)
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To: marktwain

Why is this a story? A gunman who is shot in the act has no standing to sue under PA law. Once again, the media proves to be the villain.


95 posted on 03/31/2014 9:11:01 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Tenacious 1
I assume you realize that my line was cynical and sarcastic. Of course I agree with you

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Of course I realize that....

I will 'raise' you a dash of sardonicism and irony to go along with the cynicism and sarcasm. All which are favorites of mine...

OF course the TRUTH is the bottom line and it gets harder all the time to try and keep it 'light'

Like they say 'it is an art to (somewhat) maintain your sanity while those around you are being overtaken' - or something like that......

96 posted on 03/31/2014 9:40:38 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98 --"I would agree with you BUT that would make both of us wrong".))
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To: Cowgirl of Justice
Her ‘friends’ said instead of shooting her, he should have shot in the air ‘to scare her’ and she would have stopped.

Should'a shot the "friends" too!

97 posted on 03/31/2014 10:53:38 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: marktwain

In certain circles, being robber is an acceptable line of work.


98 posted on 03/31/2014 1:37:42 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
"If you watch the video until the end, it’s states the hero is protected from being sued by the castle doctrine."

It wouldn't be the castle doctrine protecting him.

99 posted on 03/31/2014 1:43:49 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

that’s what the DA at the end of the video said...

I didn’t quite get that either.


100 posted on 03/31/2014 1:48:05 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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