Posted on 03/30/2014 10:08:42 PM PDT by chessplayer
And it’s not the stuff of revolution, despite the common-sense-defeating opinion this week from a regional director of the National Labor Relations Board named Peter Sung Ohr, who found that scholarship football players at Northwestern should be regarded as “employees” simply because their sport produces revenue and because football takes work. His 24-page decision that they should be allowed to unionize was a lot of senseless knee-jerkism.
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They just formed a union to get an 0bamaCare exemption.
(hat tip to the Dennis Miller show)
They’re also “assuming” that fans will consider continuing to pay inflated ticket prices to football and other sports. I definitely WILL NOT pay $40-50 for a baseball ticket that goes for $10 today. Maybe the NCAA should allow a stipend and call it a day before opening Pandora’s box too far.
Did you think three moves when you posted? I was a a D1 football player at a perennial top 30( at times in the teens) ranked football school. Can you fathom the actual amount of time and sacrifice to get on the gridirion, nevermind maintain, the least a 3.0? I busted my ass not only to maintain my grades, but to achieve at the highest level fir a billion dollar athletic department. My tuition was artificaiily inflated because of pell grants and other social engineering.
I wasn’t allowed to have certain employment.
I imagine you could work and create income fir yourself. I was prohibited.
one a worker, there all workers...
and workers can have "sick days" and strikes....
workers pay taxes.....and the tax on a $60000 scholarship plus wages is going to be big....infact, if they get pay, then there should be no scholarships at all...
they already get a stipend...its called a scholarship, and on top of that, room and board, transportation and all that glorification...
Good, tax all scholarships and pay me for the revenue we create. Got more insight? If I was punching a clock at minimum wage, I would have been fine with that since I (we)was putting in 50hours a week.
I bet you were picked last in kickball.
I think the tax situation will arise very quickly and scare the crap out of most of the football players. If you toss in the free yearly tuition (figure minimum of $30k)....as a union guy....you need to pay for some taxation on it (to include state taxes). Once this gets explained....nobody will sign up and the whole dies as a topic of conversation within minutes.
This is just another nail in the coffin of college sports, thanks to the Liberal agenda. All of academia is on the decline in fact.
The following post is from a related thread.
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Fx News's "The Five" were talking about this NLRB-related issue the other day. But since they overlooked some very important constitutional problems with it for some non-obvious reason, I will fill in the void.
When patriots hear about vague federal laws and regulations, the example of this thread concerning unionization, they need check the constitutional validity of what they hear using a few key sections of the Constitution.
The first thing that patriots need to do when they hear about some questionable federal law is the following. They need to look in Congress's constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers to find a clause which would reasonably justify such a law in the context that the law is being applied to. And without even bothering to look at these clauses, there's only 18 of them so I have a good idea by now, there is no clause that would reasonably address non-federal government employment, non-military schools or labor unions.
In fact, an examination of Section 8 shows that the Founding States had granted Congress exclusive legislative control only over those entities indicated in Clauses 17 & 18 as examples, the Founding States also making the 10th Amendment to clarify that the states essentially have unique legislative control over intrastate issues which is what this situation is imo.
Next, even if states had delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to address the issues of this thread, patriots also have to consider who is calling the shots concerning a federal regulation. This is because the Founding States had made the first numbered clauses in the Constitution, Sections 1-3 of Article I, evidently a good place to hide it from many citizens, to clarify that all federal legislative powers are vested in the elected members of Congress, not in the executive or judicial branches, or in non-elected government bureaucrats in the constitutionally undefined NLRB. And by establishing such agences Congress is wrongly protecting federal legislative powers from the wrath of the voters in blatant defiance of the previously indicated clauses.
Sadly, the reason that many low-information patriots relucatant ask, "How high?" when constitutionally toothless federal agencies like the NLRB shout "JUMP!," is because parents have not been making sure that their children are being taught the federal government's constitutionally limited powers as the Founding States had intended for those powers to be understood.
Again, patriots need to run a Section 8 checklist and also consider who is calling the shots every time they hear about a strange federal law or regulation.
They are going to be in for a nasty surprise when the IRS decides their scholarship and support as “ employees” is income.
When I was an intern at Los Angeles County hospital , the residents tried to organize. The court case was hysterical. The court ruled that for union purposes the residents were “students” and could not organize. However for TAX purposes their stipend was a salary and taxable income. Lose lose.
Form me this is a 44 year running conversation. My brother in 1968 gets paid 500 dollars per semester plus full scholarship while I busted and broke my body chasing a wet dream on the diamond. So yes, I know about your sacrifice.
And lest you argue, ah look at the revenue we bring to the university. Hmmmm, I can think of many students in academia generating revenue in research, patents etc. AND while they are not busting their body as you had to, they very well may be spending far more hours on their projects than you.
In my era, we used to call it "choices" while undoubtedly you call it exploitation.
In the end I would have never traded the choices I made with the experience I gained, lessons I learned, becoming a better person. That mental toughness I learned then is serving me now.
And who the hell FORCED you to play a kids game?
they already get a stipend...its called a scholarship, and on top of that, room and board, transportation and all that glorification...
Yup. They already get paid with a free ride via athletic scholarship. And probably get tons of spending money under the table. Then they take “tough” courses like Shoelace Tying 101. They are pampered, spoiled, and treated like royalty. Behavior by athletes that would get a non-athlete student kicked out of school in an instant is swept under the rug and tolerated. I stopped watching NCAA Division I sports years ago. Now it’s strictly Division II and III for me.
The ruling if upheld would be applicable to nearly everyone who currently works for a college or university in exchange for tuition, fees, or a stipend. Football players are nothing special in this regard. Graduate students are doing world-class research and the ones who speak English are usually better teachers than the teaching faculty they aide or displace at a fraction of the cost of Professors. For every football player there are hundreds of grad students and teaching seniors, all working double-duty at least as onerous as any student athlete.
This is just another nail in the coffin of college sports,
It’ll be interesting to see how full the stadiums are for the autumn 2014 season. Or if it affects tv viewership.
Under NCAA rules, students/players cannot get paid for their participation in sports. Otherwise, they are tagged as “professionals” and barred from playing in college sports, unless someone slipped a new rule by me.
Years ago, some college players earned money during the summers by playing in semi-professional “Industrial Football Leagues”, but were banned from rejoining their college teams because they were now marked as pros.
The NLRB is corrupt as hell and Obama is keeping it that way to please the corrupt leftist unions who are his sugar-daddies and goon squads.
Here is a chance for the Republicans in the House to hold extremely penetrating hearings on the NCAA, the NLRB, and the anti-sports organizations. Might as well kill three nasty birds at one time.
If my memory is correct this happened at Fordham Univ during the 1930’s
The schools response was to cancel the foot all program
Maybe Northwestern needs to do the same for five years or so
When this story first hit the national news about a month ago, I began trying to find out ANYTHING about this Rumagi Huma..the self-proclaimed union head. Who is this guy..and who’s funding him?..No luck
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