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and the hits just keep on coming......
1 posted on 03/28/2014 3:07:23 AM PDT by kingattax
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In this case, I approve; It’s not political. They were liars and cheaters, and democrats have no business handling nuclear weapons.


2 posted on 03/28/2014 3:10:43 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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I’ve known several SAC people over the years. The one common thing that ALL of them had was that they were totally ‘anal’ when it came to procedures and following the book.

So this particular set of circumstances really raises some questions in my mind.


4 posted on 03/28/2014 3:23:30 AM PDT by The Working Man
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Clearing the deck for thier commie replacements, stacking the deck so to speak


9 posted on 03/28/2014 3:57:15 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Im missing a jumbo jet with 235 passengers has anyone seen it?)
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From the article:

> No generals are being punished.


23 posted on 03/28/2014 6:04:30 AM PDT by glorgau
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Why are they giving these Officers job-related tests to see if they can do their jobs? The only way to determine if an Officer is proficient is to see how fast he/she can run two miles. That works for the Army.


28 posted on 03/28/2014 7:00:58 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 (R"A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Fire the leaders and discipline the cheaters ... wouldn’t it make more sense to discipline the leaders and fire the cheaters? No, some of those cheaters will be promoted to leader.


32 posted on 03/28/2014 7:24:14 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Operating out of weakness? Imagine if he was working from a position of strength!)
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This is really an issue of the SAC zero defect mentality, which is still necessary to provide nuclear surety, clashing with the values of the Millennial generation.

Pass/fail inspections where anything less than 100% is a failure is the norm in Nuclear Surety Inspections, and that transfers over to regular stand-up testing prior to assuming alert. Reciting rote memorization of rules, meticulous, step-by-step checklists ... these were the norm of SAC, and they continue to be the way the nuclear enterprise is accomplished in the Air Force.

But the Air Force has been struggling for years with this. There is no Cold War to defend against, there is no Soviet Union to deter. The missiles have been "de-targeted". They are incapable of immediate response. But the SAC zero defect mentality remains. The missileers are baby-sitters, guarding an armory, not aiming a weapon.

Combine this with the Millennials' values, where self satisfaction is more important than serving one's country. A Millennial can get self-satisfaction from serving their country if the role is satisfying. Being on the front lines in Afghanistan is more satisfying than sitting in a bunker 60 feet underground in Montana. Operating a Navy ship at sea or an airplane at 30,000 feet is more satisfying than running a checklist on an missile which is not on alert, and guarding against no enemy in particular.

I am not sure if the Navy is having issues with its ballistic missile submarine crews. But the Navy is different, and the submarine crew has the day to day responsibility to operate the submarine.

Ultimately, I think the Air Force ICBM mission needs to be rethought. Perhaps it is time to entertain a "diad" of submarine launched missiles and bombers, last discussed in the 1980s when ICBMs were deemed obsolete and destabilizing because they were susceptible to first strikes.

36 posted on 03/28/2014 8:52:02 AM PDT by magellan
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They are now cleared for working in the Atlanta public school administration.


39 posted on 03/28/2014 9:16:37 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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I first read the headline as "Commanders fired nuke missile in cheating scandal"

Yikes!

40 posted on 03/28/2014 9:40:00 AM PDT by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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Better than...

Nuke missile fired in commanders cheating scandal

41 posted on 03/28/2014 10:15:31 AM PDT by PapaNew
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Eric Holder, Lois Lerner, Susan Rice, Lisa Jackson, Jay Carney, James Clapper, Kathleen Sebelius, and other regime players have not gotten fired or even so much as reprimanded, which means the firings of these commanders has NOTHING to do with ethics or wrong-doing.


48 posted on 03/28/2014 6:33:24 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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When it comes to nuclear missiles I'd much prefer that everything be done by the book....100%.Cheating on exams surely doesn't constitute 100%.
50 posted on 03/28/2014 8:52:31 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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With all the lies this administration has told, been caught at, and not been held accountable for.

With American blood on the ground and no accounting for it.

With a President who openly pushes for a zero nuclear arms policy.

With a President who has sacked every patriotic American officer who has stood up to his malevolence.

Let’s just say I suspect that what is really going on here is that new blood is being brought in (for whatever reason) to be more in line with this President’s position and bidding.


51 posted on 03/28/2014 9:20:40 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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Our nation is morally bankrupt. Antagonistic foreign nations always were morally bankrupt and have no reason to point at the U.S.A. When the world is saturated enough with evil, all will see consequences. Previous occurrences in history are blotted out by the declines and personal struggles of those, who would have otherwise been historians. Material things (e.g., machines) biodegrade quickly relative to many centuries, leaving no archeological traces.


53 posted on 03/29/2014 2:52:23 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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We have permitted our American “leadership” to steal what was our national culture of accountability.

We allow the political elites to look for reasons to give their peers a pass instead of holding them wholly accountable and an appointment at Leavenworth.

I’m for over-prosecuting political graft and corruption to set examples and deterrent. Instead we do the opposite and give them a pass because they are cronies of elites.

This cultural change started long before 9-11, but I still question why US government heads did not roll from the top down as a result. It changed our lives and it should have changed the lives of those who failed to do their job.

It also should have happened after the 2008-9 Wall street debacle. Instead we bailed out and gave trillions away to bankers and others who are buying up our public assets on the cheap.

Most Americans that have been doing the right thing as in having low debt and saving are rewarded with zero interest, while the money changers are rewarded with free money.

We need to see govt resources used for investigating and prosecuting crooks in government. The corruption and fraud is killing us.


55 posted on 03/30/2014 3:40:26 PM PDT by apoliticalone
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