Posted on 03/27/2014 6:15:56 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
The City Council has proposed a bill that would require grocery and other retail shops to charge customers ten cents for the privilege of bringing their purchases home in a new paper or plastic bag. (Proceeds from the fee would go back to the store owners.) The plan, which is currently endorsed by 19 council members (it needs 26 votes to pass), is intended to encourage people to bring their own reusable bags....
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All of the hemp-wearing, granola-eating NYC hipsters would strap on their vegan Birkenstocks and run to the nearest voting booth or rally to support this crap.
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Sounds like the old days of Coke bottles at the grocery stores.
They were recycling long before there was even a word for it.
Oh, I don’t forget. I was a teen when this was happening.
I was ticked that they insisted on these little plastic bags - even at the time I was thinking how plastic is worse. What environMental (that buzzword didn’t exist back then, per se) would think promoting plastic was better?
Now, I do love the handles. If they could build in handles easily to the paper bags, so much the better.
But no, can’t hurt the trees, can’t hurt the dirt, so buy your own bunch of bags, lug them around to and through the store, and pass around some germs.
What are these stupid pathetic “reusable” bags made of? I can’t wait until environMentals back-pedal on that down the road. Of course, they don’t care about germs propogating in a food shop for humans. That’s another issue.
In NYS its soda and beer bottles which are sold in food stores. wine and liquor bottles are only sold at liquor stores so they are exempt.
Stores have to take the bottles back and refund the $$$ only if they sell the same type bottles, ie the same product.
I suppose its a disincentive to buy those products, or at least buy them in smaller bottles. But both beer and soda go flat once opened.
No, the Austin Silly council banned disposable bags period. Go to Lowes or Home Depot for a basket full of electrical parts and figure out how to get them to your pickup.
Texas...the onliest free state in the land...as we learn daily from dozens of FReepers.
They refuse to see they have the same rot as the rest, and are catching up fast.
I had a discussion about the plastic bags with some libs. I “cried” that I use those bags for garbage. They said buy black garbage bags. Their claim is that those grocery bags do not disintegrate. That’s 100% bull hockey. Leave those bags in the sun and they become brittle. Store them for a few years and they become brittle. Meanwhile black garbage bags are still useable after two years outdoors. I know this because I compost leaves in them.
I suggested to those “ladies” to stop buying products in plastic containers, children’s toys and ban vinyl siding. Those things do not disintegrate. They had no answer to that.
The problem with the grocery bags is that they are white and easily visible. If they were black, they wouldn’t get so much attention.
Why not make it a dollar? Or ten?
Is there a law that says we have to have bags or boxes to take the food out of the store?
If I have to pay for those plastic bags which were pushed to “save a tree”, then I’ll just use the store’s shopping cart. I’ll just unload the food into my car’s trunk.
I’ll probably be charged a fee for doing that.
Ah yes, those lovely canvas bags made in china.
How environmentaly friendly are they?
They have to be washed.
Electricity
Water
Detergent
How is that saving the earth and the fish?
How fast does a canvas bag disintegrate in a landfill?
Those libs didn’t think things through.
Thanks but, I really don’t need another reason for me never to go back to NYC.
Mrs WBill has a reusable bag that rolls up neatly into her purse. It's great for trips to the Dollar Store, etc, where we just get 4-5 small things. Problem solved....we don't get overrun with plastic bags, we don't need to juggle a half dozen items on the way out the door, and (I suppose) the stores save a few pennies.
Her solution works great .... for where we use it. But bags like that for groceries? Raw Meat and Produce? Sheer foolishness.
Of course, the gov't - who knows what's best for everyone, everywhere - won't allow people to arrive at the same conclusions we did. Fools, all.
The only claim I hear is that they aren’t biodegradable ....I believe that some are and some aren't. I know that the ones that I get in the grocery store "feel" completely different from the cheapies I get here and there at various smaller shops.
ending up out at sea where they claim there are huge islands of plastic bags and plastic trash .... there was a great article on FR about this not too long ago. There are "trash collections" out (especially) in the Pacific due to ocean currents. But, far from being a massive mound of garbage that - at least I - imagined, they're more like a piece of plastic here and there. The equivalent of a plastic bottle cap every acre, was what stuck in my mind. Still not "optimal", but far from a mess of gargantuan proportions.
I'll dig around and see if I can find the article. Since it was on FR, it's less likely to have gone in the memory hole.
They do this in Los Angeles county. It annoys me everytime I am at a grocery store and asked if I want a bag for the items I bought... Yes I do!
That will be 10 cents please....
It is like old russia where you had to carry a bag around with you just in case you came across something you want to buy.
I just don’t remember getting paid to bring back bottles. It was simply the thing to do. Like now, I bring back those dreaded plastic bags (albeit the Coke was a purchased product, not free service). I was a kid then. I think they stopped by the time I was 12 or so, when Coke and all went all plastic.
Notice it is always cities - real cities - and the fallout into the suburbs (where liberals go to escape the unwashed in the real cities).
Actually they come in many colors. Depends on the store - and their mood. 1 store here has base-blue or white bags. Another has base-white or tan. They go in cycles. The really bad thing is when 1 of the stores puts on its “green” (red) persona and prints propaganda on their bags for a while about how they are helping the “environment” (I hate that buzzword).
I hate to admit it and I used to think different, our county here in Maryland does recycling as a public service, we all got recycle bins and the truck comes a different day than garbage does, its sure a hell of a lot easier than lugging bottles back to the stores to try to get that $$$ back.
Incidentally, NYS has forced recycling AND bottle deposit return. I believe the deposit return was mainly to deter people from littering with them.
ROFL!
You pinned it. All it is is shuffling off the “environmental damage” somewhere else.
My husband had EXACTLY this complaint at a gym he used to use. He went for years and they had towels handy. Then 1 year they canceled free towels - and claimed it would save the environment. As he said, “BS - you’re saving money by not buying and laundering the towels; now I just use more of my own and launder more”.
It’s ultimately (shuffled) economics - THAT’s the ECO, not “ecosystem”.
NYC should just outlaw all people who earn less than 100 million per year.
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