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James Sherr: It is time we stopped praising Ukraine for ‘exercising restraint’
Kyiv Post ^ | March 26, 2014, 6:02 p.m. | Yuriy Onyshkiv

Posted on 03/26/2014 7:40:20 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

KP: You are arguing that Ukraine ... should respond with strength to Russian aggression. What do you think Ukraine ... should do to keep Putin out of Ukraine?

Where Ukraine is concerned, Carlyle’s dictum deserves repeating for the umpteenth time: ‘If I am not for myself, who will be for me?’ As an outsider, I am baffled by the authorities’ failure to formally declare that a state of war exists. The Armed Forces and the country need to hear this. Ukraine has been attacked and invaded. Its assets and military bases have been seized, centres of power have been occupied, and its navy has been destroyed. Although the new authorities are becoming more decisive, there still is a perilous lack of clarity. To this day, I’m not sure that soldiers and their commanders know what is expected of them. Here, I am the first to agree that the West has not helped. It is time we stopped praising Ukraine for ‘exercising restraint’. Our message must be: ‘Ukraine has the right and obligation to defend its armed forces, its citizens and its territory, and in this it can count on our full support.’ Hesitation in Ukraine reinforces hesitation in the West and vice versa. Those who say, in so many words, ‘we should not be focusing on Crimea, only on the elections’ are doing untold damage to the country.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: deathtoputin; jamessherr; putinsbuttboys; russia; russophiles; traitorsonfr; ukraine; yuriyonyshkiv
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To: Ciexyz

Stop believing Russian propaganda. They are liars, thugs, and tyrants.


21 posted on 03/26/2014 8:37:18 PM PDT by Red White and Blue patriot (USA all the way. Love it or Leave it. Ted Cruz 2016)
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To: Red White and Blue patriot; LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
You mean Russophobe!

Here Low[down] in case you missed it on the other thread. Your major award:

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22 posted on 03/26/2014 8:37:35 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: SouthParkRepublican

If you see troops out your window, please call your doctor. He’ll know what to do.


23 posted on 03/26/2014 8:39:21 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: cripplecreek

Congratulations! It looks like you and the rest of the connedservatives who have bought this Russian bs are in luck. Obama agrees with you and will let Putin take whatever he wants without firing a shot.


24 posted on 03/26/2014 8:39:44 PM PDT by Red White and Blue patriot (USA all the way. Love it or Leave it. Ted Cruz 2016)
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To: FredZarguna

The Tsar is back in town


25 posted on 03/26/2014 8:44:36 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: tcrlaf
she was “ashamed to live in the country where bandits were allowed to walk the street freely”.

Your observation is so trenchant: isn't it amazing how commies can say the most incredible lies with a straight face and then have useful dimwits repeat them?

The Russians got angry because their hand-puppet got kicked to the curb, and now we have to listen to thugs who stuff ballot boxes under machine guns huff and puff about the rule of law.

Hopefully, a bullet finds her and puts her out of her terrible misery.

26 posted on 03/26/2014 8:46:08 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: cripplecreek

Suicidal, because a volunteer army with modern weapons always gets its ass kicked by a bunch of vodka-soaked conscripts sporting 1940’s ordnance.


27 posted on 03/26/2014 8:47:59 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: GeronL

And wherever there are Russky thugs, there is an entourage of cockroaches, fellow travelers, and useful idiots.


28 posted on 03/26/2014 8:50:05 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: tcrlaf

Then why would she go to Crimea?


29 posted on 03/26/2014 8:53:36 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
Yeah, it's a funny thing. When a dictator murders 10 million of your people and then ships in millions of cockroaches who don't belong in your country into the Eastern sector, the interlopers have a tendency to know what side their bread is buttered on.

What happened in Crimea isn't going to happen in the parts of Ukraine where actual Ukrainians live.

30 posted on 03/26/2014 8:54:35 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: GeronL
She meant to say: "I want to go to a place where Russian thugs like me roam freely."
31 posted on 03/26/2014 8:56:21 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: GeronL
The Tsar is back in town

He's hanging out at Dino's.

32 posted on 03/26/2014 8:56:34 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: tcrlaf
As Natalia Poklonskaya said, when she resigned from the Kiev Ukraine General Prosecutor’s Office, and fled to her parent’s home in Crimea, she was “ashamed to live in the country where bandits were allowed to walk the street freely”.

LOL...what about the invading Russian bandits in the streets of Crimea? Guess she really has no shame, just different priorities.
33 posted on 03/26/2014 9:11:09 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: Ciexyz
The illegal coup and the western powers’ engineering of same has awoken the slumbering bear of Russia.

Nah....the "bear" has been on the prowl and making plans. They just used this opportunity in Ukraine to jump-start their operations.
34 posted on 03/26/2014 9:12:57 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: Red White and Blue patriot

When did I say it was not the greatest nation on Earth?

The problem is that we are electing to involve ourselves in the affairs of other nation’s military directives regardless of whether or not there is any moral imperative for us to do so.

In the scope of international affairs, this was basically a bloodless coup in the Ukraine followed by a referendum that both liberal and conservative sources (if there are any anymore) pegged at about 70% in favor of becoming a part of Russia.

Yet you choose to rail against this in the name of doing what is right?

We start by restoring order to our own house first.


35 posted on 03/26/2014 9:21:16 PM PDT by SouthParkRepublican
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To: FredZarguna

It’s much more likely that the “troops” I see outside my door will be domestic rather than foreign.


36 posted on 03/26/2014 9:24:01 PM PDT by SouthParkRepublican
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To: Red White and Blue patriot

And just on a side note.... How’s the whole “duty to support those seeking freedom” thing working out for us in Egypt?


37 posted on 03/26/2014 9:27:37 PM PDT by SouthParkRepublican
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To: Zhang Fei

This was a very good article. James Sherr makes a lot of sense.


38 posted on 03/26/2014 9:32:42 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: SouthParkRepublican

Who is “not supporting them” besides the moron in the White House?


39 posted on 03/26/2014 9:36:02 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: Zhang Fei
Excellent article. This seems like the summing up or conclusion.

Russia won’t die either, but I am confident that it will lose. It does not understand this country. Even if it wins this round, it will lose. The Kremlin thought it won in December when Yanukovych signed the accord on December 17 [regarding Russian $15 billion loan package], and Putin’s cronies announced that ‘Ukraine is ours.’ Then in two months time, they found they had no influence in Ukraine at all. We now need to show Russia: you take Crimea, you lose Ukraine; you take more of Ukraine, you lose Europe. I think it’s eminently feasible.

Pooty truly does not understand the love of liberty that beats in a heart wanting to be free of tyranny.

40 posted on 03/26/2014 9:42:34 PM PDT by No One Special
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