Posted on 03/24/2014 11:03:14 AM PDT by Nachum
Edited on 03/24/2014 3:41:03 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
While the NSA is busy justifying its spying of every American its existence thanks to famous Moscow resident Edward Snowden, its Russian counterparts have been busy intercepting even more phone Ukrainian conversations.
After a month ago a leaked phone call between US assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland and the US envoy to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt confirmed that it was the US that was pulling the strings in what was about to be a violent coup overthrowing Ukraine's president Yanukovich, "someone" has just leaked another phone conversation, this time between parliamentarian Nestor Shufrych and former PM and ideological leader of the Ukraine "revolution" Yulia Tymoshenko and most probable future president of West Ukraine, in which Tymoshenko is makes the following threats, "It’s going too far! Bugger! We must grab arms and go whack those damn katsaps [a Ukrainian word used to refer to the Russians in a negative tone] together with their leader", "I’ll use all my connections, I’ll raise the whole world – as soon as I’m able to – in order to make sure.. Bugger!.. not even scorched earth won’t remain where Russia stands" although all her empty threats collapse in the last sentence of the phone conversation in which she says, regarding the Crimea annexation, that "we are going to take it to the Hague International Criminal Court." Good luck with that.
But the smoking gun, and where Putin once again shows just how masterful of a chess player he is, is the following statement by Tymoshenko, after asked, rhetorically, by her counterparty, "what should we do now with the 8 million Russians that stayed in Ukraine. They are outcasts"... to which she replies: "They must be killed with nuclear weapons."
Needless to say, that is not how you make Russian friends, or diffuse geopolitical tensions
I love how these conspiracy websites don’t trust anything that comes from the US intelligence, but straight from the Russian FSB, well, then it must be true!
btw, Ukraine has no nukes...because we took them from them 20 years ago, so threatening to nuke people really makes no sense.
Incorrect translation in your header. Here’s the leaked phone conversation:
I’m shocked, SHOCKED I tell you, that someone might be upset that the kind and benevolent Russians occupied their country.
Wait, hold on, there's a correction:
It turns out this was a conversation in the White House between Obamao and Lois Lerner about the Tea Party.
Ukraine had never “had nukes”. Those installed there, were Soviet Union’s a.k.a. Russia. And they took them back. As a single entity, Ukraine has never had nuclear capability or expertise. Stop making things up. If nuclear weapons are installed in New Mexico, it doesn’t mean they belong to New Mexico.
Apologies. As per posting rules on FR, I am compelled to post the title exactly as it appears on the site it is from. I am not allowed to alter it in any way or the post could be pulled.
Cheech and Chong: Pedro and Man at the Drive-in, “Rip the shirt, how cliche.”
This sounds like Pravda BS to me.
This leak was true:
A leaked recording of a telephone conversation allegedly between US assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland and the US envoy to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt discussing who should be in Ukraine’s next government has, according to The FT, threatened to fuel east-west tensions over the troubled nation’s future. In apparent frustration with the EU – which has failed to join the US in threatening sanctions against Ukraine’s leaders if they violently crush the protests – the voice resembling Ms Nuland at one point exclaims “Fuck the EU”. As the two US diplomats decide whether “Klitsch” or “Yats” should be ‘in’ or ‘out’, listeners will be reminded (uncomfortably) that the governments of Ukraine and Russia previously alleged that the protests are being funded and orchestrated by the US.
The assistant US secretary of state, Victoria Nuland, has apologised after her phone conversation about the political crisis in Ukraine was leaked on the internet. The call between Nuland and a US ambassador focused on the future of the country if it gains a new government. Nuland declined to comment on ‘private diplomatic conversations’
Agitprop from “Tyler Durden” (Fight Club, wasn’t it?) on the agitprop site ZeroHedge, relaying Russian agitprop about nuclear weapons threats by Ukraine — which gave up its nukes as a condition of that accord that Putin violated when he invaded Ukraine. This “report” is Russian agitprop, and nothing more.
It’s on Netflix.
Being bored while the wife was away at grandma’s I watched it.
Thought it might be kinda edgy.
Beyond stupid. In the end, just another Hollyweird White People Be Bad cartoon.
But it was Funny Stupid, have to admit...with some minor kink
And the blonde was hot. Don’t forget that.
/bingo
I watched the video at the link you provided, and they do talk about nuclear weapons being used. Zerohedge, like Drudge, may change their headline for the story. Zerohedge adds their own commentary.
This forum post link to the Zerohedge story. Nothing to translate that I can see.
Ukraine was as much a part of the Soviet Union as was Russia or Belarus.
If the US breaks up, does Texas "own" New Mexico's nuclear weapons because Texas was a bigger part of the US?
Do you really think that only NSA is capable of registering phone conversations, including Westerns leaders’ ones? Obama had to apologize to German Chancellor Merkel for that.
When the US is listening to the rest of the world, why wouldn’t others do the same? Has the US a copyright on spying?
“I love how these conspiracy websites don’t trust anything that comes from the US intelligence, but straight from the Russian FSB, well, then it must be true!”
Indeed. . .I would add;
“I love how these conspiracy NUT-JOBS ON FR don’t trust anything that comes from the US intelligence, but straight from the Russian FSB, well, then it must be true!
Yeah next thing they'll be telling us is that our own government is tapping our phones. Geez.
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