You are correct, sir.
Posted on 03/22/2014 2:46:47 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
How much weight should our opposition to abortion carry in our voting decisions?
God calls us to think His thoughts after Him. That means all of His thoughts. That is, we ought to have a sound and biblical view on everything the Bible touches on. Where it touches on political issues, we are called, again to have sound biblical views. We need to think biblically about what is just war and what is not. We need to think faithfully about taxation, and the size and scope of government. We need to think through what obligation, if any the state has to protect property, to protect our lives.
That said, there are precious few things that frustrate me more about the evangelical right than its utter foolishness with respect to proportion politically. We bundle together this issue and that, everything from tax rates to school vouchers to flag burning to abortion, and call it “family values.” There is a right and a wrong answer on all these issues. But abortion is not like any of the others. It stands out all on its own. In a hundred years, the Christian church will not hang its head in shame that it did so little to pass a Constitutional Amendment against the burning of the flag. In a hundred years, no elderly Christian will be looked at with suspicion by the younger generation because they didn’t do more to lower the tax rate. In a hundred years, if God should be so gracious, we will be looked upon as that godless generation of the church that watched tens of millions of babies go to their deaths. Indeed, we’ll be remembered as those “Christians” who elected men to office who believed that the state ought to protect the rights of some mothers to murder their babies.
It is unfair to draw too tight a comparison between abortion in America and the Holocaust in Nazi Germany. There are significant differences. First, the Holocaust was carried out, by and large, in secret. The rank and file Germans had no idea what was going on. We, on the other hand, every last one of us, woke up today knowing that four thousand babies would die today. We, on the other hand, have four thousand mothers, every day, who knowingly do this. We, on the other hand, have four thousand fathers, boyfriends and husbands who every day encourage this. The Holocaust lasted roughly ten years, and the Nazi’s killed roughly six million people. We, on the other hand, have been at this for 35 years, and have killed more than fifty million babies. It is an unfair comparison, unfair to the Nazis. We are far worse monsters.
How much weight should our opposition carry? I have purposed in my heart that I would never vote for a man for any office that is not committed to using every power at his disposal to protect and defend every unborn child. Never. Ever. If every Christian would simply make that simple pledge, then we would win this battle. As it stands, at best we vote for candidates who might nominate or support judicial candidates who might vote for this small impediment or that to abortion on demand. At worst, we vote for the guy with the R by his name. We need to get rid of our strategies, and get on our knees in repentance. We need to stop negotiating with candidates over the bodies of dead babies.
You are correct, sir.
The rank and file Germans had no idea what was going on?
Bull loney.
If a candidate is wrong on the issue of abortion, then his other values are probably wrong too.
Agreed. The problem, to my thinking, is that abortion isn’t the responsibility of the Federal Government. It is a power left to the several States.
Medicine and marriage are regulated by the States, not the Federal Government.
No, the Nazis killed roughly six million Jews.
And seven million other Communists, Gypsies, homosexuals, and others deemed inconsistent with the 'glories' of the Third Reich.
The reality, for political reasons we should do as the democRATS do when talking about gun control for abortion. Simply lie and deny that we are going to pass abortion regulations....and when we get a majority, do as they do, and pass those very regulations that they denied in the campaign.
you can’t do anything if you don’t have a majority.
I just can't do it. When we fail to protect the weakest among us even at the ballot box we've failed as a nation, IMO.
Without the right to life, all other rights are meaningless.
Every factor must be weighed. Suppose a candidate buys conservative support by telling voters he is against gun control and expanding abortion rights, but votes to impose socialism on the country. Socialism has a lot of blood on its hands at least in countries where it was able to fully mature, almost as much as the number of babies that have been aborted in the US since Roe.
see:
DEMOCIDE:
MURDER
BY GOVERNMENT
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/MURDER.HTM
I can believe that many didn’t know (probably the further they were from the Polich border); much of the killing was done in occupied countries, and many of the people doing the killing were from those countries. I don’t believe nobody knew, and I definitely believe it was something people were terrified to speak of openly.
Much of Germany’s protections of individual rights today are based on the role the culture of intimidation and the all-prying eyes of the state played in coercing “normal” people into submission/cooperation. For some reason, we accepted that the Japanese emperor wasn’t accountable for his nation’s actions (due to fear for his life) but we didn’t accept the same defense from many in Nazi-controlled Europe.
I’m a conservative NOT a republican.
Gov’t should not be involved with abortion or marriage. These two should be only between a woman/dr and people/ministers respectively. It’s not my d@mn business.
Or is that libertarian? Ok, I’m libertarian.
Being able to win an election has to factor in there somewhere as well.
Infanticide is hardly a conservative position. Your attitude mirrors the view of people who stopped regarding many (Gypsys, Jews, homosexuals, retarded people) as “people”. I don;t mean to be offensive, but de-humanizing them was the first step to convincing many people to exterminate them.
Do you believe many “andangered species” eggs should receive more protection than a human egg (as they currently do under US law)? Do you believe that the parents of minors that currently have to approve of body piercings or tattoos should also have a say (or at least be notified) of the abortion process on their children (which carries much more significant health risks, never mind the murder involved).
>> It’s not my d@mn business.
The killing of nascent, human life is everyone’s business.
The govt has certainly failed on the marriage front.
Coward.
There are only two issues which will make me 100% oppose a candidate.
The first is abortion and the other is gun control.
The taking of innocent life is one of four sins that cry out to Heaven for justice. I, for one, do not want to be on the receiving end of that justice when it is carried out.
I will NEVER knowingly vote for a murderer. That would make me complicit in the act of murder.
To me, the death of an unborn is the ONLY ISSUE that really matters — because it is about taking a human life. No other issue holds higher. That being said, this is an issue that is impossible to legislate without hypocrisy.
A murderous “mother” who goes through abortion or acts that lead to miscarry may argue that she has right to her own body. Pro-life advocates correctly point out that the child inside is clearly not her body, rather an independent human being with his own rights.
The only NON-hypocritical solution is to register every conception so that each pregnancy is tracked to ensure human rights of the unborn. Who knows, perhaps murdering mothers would simply miscarry through many available means. If one is anti-abortion, one must be anti-miscarry as well. After all, both result in a death of a human being. All deaths must be investigated for foul play. In miscarriages, the child did not receiver nutrient properly, or the mother smoked and drank, perhaps did drugs... where does the governmental power stop? A very complex situation indeed.
There's something worse than murder in this world. That something is refusing salvation. This keeps on getting ignored and that's why the abortion furore keeps on chasing its own tail.
Once God gets His due props, then all else will fall into place, not without difficulties, but inexorably. Abortion is a symptom more than it is a disease.
Exactly how I see it. I vote accordingly.
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