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To: plain talk

> “The 2nd amendment would simply be ‘rewritten’”

No one is going to “re-write” anything, not as long as there are still 13 states left standing to block it! Please do the math.

The safety mechanisms are built into the stated subject matter of the convention, and in the numbers that are required to propose and then to ratify any amendments to the Constitution. And let me really emphasize that word: “propose.”

To begin with, the reason for calling the convention in the first place is not to address what the government CAN do, but to address what the government can NOT do. The subject of the convention is specifically limited to proposing amendments that impose fiscal restraints on the federal government, that limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government, and that limit the terms of office for its officials and for members of Congress. Any proposal by any delegate that would fall outside of these parameters would be declared by the chairman of the convention to be “void ab initio,” or dead on arrival, and there would be no further discussion of the matter. You must know, don’t you, that that’s the way conventions work?

Secondly, delegates to the convention will be selected by the various state legislatures. If you look at the numbers of Red state legislatures (26) versus Blue state legislatures (18)*, conservatives have a sizeable majority, and one that only stands to increase in the upcoming election, both in state governorships and chambers of the legislature controlled by conservatives.

Certainly there will be states like California, New York, Illinois, Hawaii and others that will send their flaming extremists, but it’s a one-state, one-vote system. Even if the liberal delegates were somehow able to approach the number of conservative delegates, no leftist proposal expanding the power or scope of the federal government can be passed inside the convention without a 2/3 vote of the states, and that just isn’t mathematically possible.

Lastly, after the Convention of States has done its work and adjourns, nothing will have been changed. Nothing. All that will have happened is that a bill of PROPOSED amendments – there’s that word again - similar in process to the first ten original amendments - our Bill of Rights - will have been submitted to Congress, which then must in turn send them back out to the legislatures of the several states for ratification, either by convention or a vote of the legislature.

Again, math is our friend here. Article V of the Constitution requires that 75% of the states ratify any proposed amendment before it becomes the Supreme Law of the Land, which also means that it would take only 13 states to kill any hair-brained proposal that might have somehow managed to slip through. Remember, the proposed amendments must stand or fall as written - no state can make any changes, not even a single letter. If the states can’t agree in the numbers required, the proposal fails for lack of support.

The bottom line is that there are multiple levels of safeguards in place to prevent a “runaway” convention - we have nothing to fear from those who would “hijack” the process. All of this fear-mongering is nothing more than tired, transparent scare tactics, like the old trope that George Soros is secretly funding the Article V movement, because the radical socialist extremists plan to take control of the convention and not only re-write the Constitution, but do away with conservatism completely.

If that were indeed the case, why wouldn’t liberal Democrats be all over this legislation? Aren’t they smart enough to understand how dangerous such an event would be to freedom and liberty? Why is it that when Article V legislation is passed, it’s done without a single Democrat vote? Shouldn’t we expect at least one Democrat to break with party orthodoxy and vote to repeal the 2nd Amendment, to establish a $25 national minimum wage, and to abolish conservatism, all in one fell swoop?

I submit to you that they would do just that if there were but one single word of truth in the arguments being peddled by the fear merchants of the John Birch Society. There isn’t, so they don’t. The Birchers insist that the Constitution is sacrosanct, that it can’t be violated or tampered with, that it must be followed as written to the letter of the law… all except that part in Article V, that is, where it authorizes the states to hold conventions to propose amendments.

In as many words, they say that they don’t trust the people to have sense enough to conduct a convention properly, that we should trust in our current form of government to correct itself, that everything will be fine as long as we just keep voting for change... us... the idiots, the dupes and the fools too stupid to run a convention... but we should keep voting.

How’s that been working out so far?

Seriously, there is something, indeed, that we DO have to fear, and that’s our current runaway federal government. We should also fear what will most certainly happen to our Constitution if we do nothing.


39 posted on 03/20/2014 7:32:51 PM PDT by Strawberry AZ
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To: Strawberry AZ

Liberals and judges don’t follow the Constitution now so even if you prevailed (you won’t) it is a meaningless exercise for people that like to preach to the choir. A few states will send their flaming liberals? Obama carried 26 states. But people waste their time with all sorts of nonsense. So have at it. However I will oppose it and encourage everyone I know to oppose it.


43 posted on 03/20/2014 8:08:21 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Strawberry AZ

Your #39 is worth a stand alone vanity.


51 posted on 03/21/2014 1:42:25 AM PDT by Jacquerie ( Article V.)
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