[dfwgator]

They believe that the Russians were involved in Smolensk and I didn't believe it until now.

I didn't believe it myself...But then I started thinking...How different would the Polish response been if Kaczynski (a great man, who is sorely missed), was still in power.

[Cronos]

I was initially mocking my wife (who is Polish) about them seeing the Russian bugbear in everything. But looking at the tactics what they followed in the Ukraine, I started thinking

A new example -- we know a priest from Lublin who helps a sister parish in Ukraine. The Ukrainian parish also has a soup kitchen and normally has quite a few "clients" -- but for the last few months there were hardly any.

Why? They found out that the ex-govt was sponsoring sending homeless to various parts of ukraine as anti-maidan protesters.

For the homeless it was a chance to get a warm bed, food, bath etc. just for shouting a few slogans.

Also, the tactics of using agent provocateurs -- I laughed at that during the Dzień niepodległości, but now I believe it -- it seems a standard Soviet tactic

I also argued that Putin would have to be crazy to kill 180 people to kill Kaczynski, like using a bazooka to kill a bee

But now I see that the Soveit method is hardly subtle. Also all the lies around the Smolensk tragedy and the diversions by the Russians have made me rethink my position -- perhaps the polacy have a point..

[Cronos]

I didn't pay much attention to polish politics for the past few years. The tesc is "hard right" :-P, so I thought the diatribes against PO was talk, but it seems that Tusk was too pally to Putin, more afraid of him.

Lech Kaczyński seems like he was a good man -- Jarosław, not so much.