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Pastor Diagnosed With Cancer: 'No Compassion in the Affordable Care Act'
Weekly Standard ^ | March 18, 2014 | Daniel Halper

Posted on 03/18/2014 8:24:04 AM PDT by grundle

A pastor recently diagnosed with cancer, and who is covered under Obamacare, tells a local Iowa reporter that there's "no compassion in the Affordable Care Act."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVRLCLcZljY

"Back in January, Pastor Angran was diagnosed with stage three cancer of the esophagus. He had insurance, but because of a previous heart condition, it did not cover the treatments he needed for his cancer. He found that out just minutes before receiving life-saving chemo," says the local reporter.

The pastor says, "One of the workers came and said let me talk to you. And so I went to talk to her. She says that we found out that your insurance does not include chemo."

"Over the past two months, the Angrans have emptied their savings account and racked up $50,000 in debt. They signed up for the Affordable Care Act," says the local reporter, "but found it to be anything but affordable. It will cost the couple more than $800 per month, money they just don't have."

The reporter adds, "As a pastor, Angran has devoted his life to helping others, to being compassionate. He says, 'There's no compassion in the Affordable Care Act.'" Related Stories

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1 posted on 03/18/2014 8:24:04 AM PDT by grundle
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I thought I read somewhere that pre-existing conditions couldn’t be used to deny service. I guess that’s not true.

I know on Medicare ... if one gets a Medigap policy, that no pre-existing conditions can be used to deny coverage or set higher premiums during the open enrollment period (it’s one time only in your life).


2 posted on 03/18/2014 8:28:15 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: grundle

there will be millions of these stories in the next 2 years, most will remain untold by the lapdog media


3 posted on 03/18/2014 8:28:26 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: grundle

well Pastor, you are gonna die. You probably voted for this freak along with your wife.

your reap what you sow


4 posted on 03/18/2014 8:29:59 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: grundle

Cancer is likely to cost upwards of 100K if chemo and radiation is needed. Even after they save one’s life,
the residual costs keep mounting, due to the damage that
these therapies cause.


5 posted on 03/18/2014 8:34:08 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: silverleaf
there will be millions of these stories in the next 2 years, most will remain untold by the lapdog media

However, a reporter or editor will eventually have his own story to tell or a story of a loved one.

6 posted on 03/18/2014 8:35:15 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: grundle

I did a quick search and came up with this ...


ObamaCare eliminates pre-existing conditions starting 2014. No more pre-existing conditions means you can’t be denied coverage, charged more, or denied treatment based on health status. Considering in 1 in 2 Americans has a health condition that qualifies as a pre-existing condition ObamaCare doing away with pre-existing conditions is a big deal.

ObamaCare means no more pre-existing conditions: Being sick or having been sick in the past can no longer can keep you from coverage.

What Does ObamaCare Do For Sick People?

If your currently sick, or have been sick in the past the Affordable Care Act, ObamaCare, is a big deal. Let’s take a quick look at some of the key provisions that ensure that people with preexisting conditions get the help they need:

• Insurance companies can’t deny coverage or charge more for people with preexisting conditions

• Insurance companies can no longer deny you for any reason other than fraud.

• Insurance companies can’t put lifetime or annual dollar limits on Essential Health Benefits which include screenings, preventions, and treatments for most life threatening sickness such as cancer.

• All plans cover free wellness and preventive services. There is no longer a reason to put off doctor visits meaning early detection will help stop sickness before it starts and early treatments will help treat people before its too late.

• Subsidies are available for those who make less than 400% of the Federal Poverty Level. This helps to make both premium costs and out-of-pocket costs more affordable.

Note: The benefits, rights, and protections offered to those with preexisting conditions only apply to plans that have to comply with the ACA. If your plan was issued before 2014 and would have faced cancellation in 2014 but the “fix” to keep your plan until 2015 was put in place it may be exempt from any or all of the above.


http://obamacarefacts.com/pre-existing-conditions.php

It would appear that someone’s story here — is not true.


7 posted on 03/18/2014 8:35:32 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: yldstrk

“Isn’t that nice”


8 posted on 03/18/2014 8:35:40 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: grundle

I don’t see a lot of faith demonstrated here. Perhaps God’s plan is to overcome his debt with a special blessing or for the pastor’s suffering to be an example to others on how to be joyful in all things.

Maybe Our Lord has a reason for taking him home soon and this is all just the mechanism to do it. One of the mistakes Christians make (especially Westerners) is that it must somehow be God’s will for us to stay alive and in financial stability. God’s grace is often exhibited most when we have no other choice but to surrender to His will. Perhaps God is stripping away the false foundations that this pastor is relying on rather than trusting in Him.

Cancer does not run in my family but, if I were to be diagnosed, I would tell the doctors to give me the pain meds and ask the Lord that I come home quickly but that His will be done. I don’t see the point in bankrupting myself just to buy another six months of life.


9 posted on 03/18/2014 8:36:37 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (2001-2008: "Dissent Is Patriotism!" 2009-2016: "Dissent Is Racism!")
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To: grundle

Quick, call Harry Reid, another fraudulent claim!. /S


10 posted on 03/18/2014 8:36:52 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: grundle
Government doesn't do compassion. Private individuals do compassion. Government does force. “Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.” - George Washington
11 posted on 03/18/2014 8:37:52 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Star Traveler

I don’t know what the full story is. However, the issue with pre-existing conditions is different from the issue with approved treatments.

The pre-existing condition problem would apply if you had, say cancer, and then got insured, and wanted treatment for the disease you had before you got insured.

The approved treatment issue is IPAB or “death panel” related. They could say that if you’ve ever had condition (a) (in this case heart problems), that treatment (b) (in this case chemo) isn’t cost effective because it’s unlikely to prolong your life.

That might be what is going on here. The ACA may be more generous about pre-existing conditions, but stingier on what types of treatments it covers.


12 posted on 03/18/2014 8:39:55 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: yldstrk

He got the treatment. So, it wasn’t about not getting treated ... it was about who was going to pay for it.


13 posted on 03/18/2014 8:40:22 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: silverleaf

I don’t know how that could be true ... when pre-existing conditions were eliminated from consideration. Something is not right with this news story.


14 posted on 03/18/2014 8:42:00 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: grundle

Senate leader Harry Reid stated categorically that these pitiful stories are mere figments of the Koch bros. imagination.

If that reply was good enough for the NYT.It should be good enough for everyone else.


15 posted on 03/18/2014 8:43:01 AM PDT by managusta (If You Can't Solve A Problem, It's Because You're Playing By The Rules.)
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To: yldstrk

What makes you think the pastor endorsed Demo policy?


16 posted on 03/18/2014 8:44:35 AM PDT by Theodore R. (It was inevitable: Texans will always be for Cornball and George P.!)
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To: managusta

That settles it, no need to tell the truth about government medical failure in NV then. People couldn’t understand or wouldn’t listen.


17 posted on 03/18/2014 8:45:21 AM PDT by Theodore R. (It was inevitable: Texans will always be for Cornball and George P.!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I can only go by what is presented here (and it doesn’t seem to be full or complete) ...

“... but because of a previous heart condition, it did not cover the treatments he needed for his cancer.”

That sounds like excluding because pre-existing conditions.


18 posted on 03/18/2014 8:45:53 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
It would appear that someone’s story here — is not true.

So who do you believe-- a pastor, or a website shilling for the government?

19 posted on 03/18/2014 8:47:59 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

I believe that to be true about pre-existing conditions not being used, that’s why. When something is “true” - it doesn’t matter who it comes from in saying it.

I would concentrate less on the source and more on a fact being true or not.

My understanding and knowledge of this subject is that it is “TRUE” that pre-existing conditions cannot be used to deny policies or deny service under the present law.

If that is not true, I would appreciate the documentation on that.


20 posted on 03/18/2014 8:52:45 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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