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Cruz Calls For Missiles In Eastern Europe
NewsMax ^ | Monday, 17 Mar 2014 06:24 PM | Jason Devaney

Posted on 03/18/2014 7:12:29 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: AnAmericanAbroad
Perhaps what Sen. Cruz is thinking is a containment strategy; a cordon sanitaire around Russia. The idea is to prevent Russian expansionism into the former Warsaw Pact nations that are now members of NATO, including the Baltic states, all of which have sizable Russian-minority populations. And it's no secret that Putin uses that as his excuse; he stirs up trouble in a land he covets by using ethnic Russians as agents provocatuers .

And I am all for supporting the former Warsaw Pact countries as they defend themselves. I would love to see NATO take a lead in this as well. What I don't see the logic behind is spending billions of dollars of our money on a missile system that does not defend us, only others. Which those we would be defending don't want enough to spend their own money on. And which the people in those countries don't want as well. Cruz wants to send a message to the Russians, I understand that. But what kind of message is being sent by acting alone without the support of the people most threatened by Russia, building a system that will take years to complete?

41 posted on 03/18/2014 9:12:44 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

Crimea is non of our business. You want you kid to kie fighting them fine, send him or her to fight with the EU, but as for mine, they will fight to defend the US, not European bankers.


Is a shooting war with Russia in a NATO country also “none of our business”? Keep your head in the sand all you want but that is where this is headed. Soon.


42 posted on 03/18/2014 9:12:57 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: SoConPubbie
Much as Reagan did with the USSR. He built up our defensive and offensive capabilities, and yes it was expensive, but it force Russia to do the same and it bankrupted them and their Evil Empire fell.

But he did it with the rest of NATO in lock step with him. He had the full support of our allies. Cruz will not. Europe doesn't want the missile system, Cruz isn't going to change that. They will not put forth dollar one to defend themselves from Russian missiles, and I'm not willing to spend billions to do it for them. So I'm sorry, pissing off Vladimir Putin is not enough to justify spending tens of billions of dollars on a missile defense system that will not make us one iota safer from Russian nukes.

43 posted on 03/18/2014 9:17:35 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: lodi90

Interesting.
What, exactly did they ask for ?


44 posted on 03/18/2014 9:18:57 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: SoConPubbie

.... HA!!! .... Cruz Missiles ... sorry couldn’t resist.


45 posted on 03/18/2014 9:24:35 AM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: DoodleDawg
I would love to see NATO take a lead in this as well.

NATO failed miserably in Afghanistan. What makes you think that it would do any better against the Russians?

46 posted on 03/18/2014 9:36:44 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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All NATO did since the end of the Cold War is break up Yugoslavia.


47 posted on 03/18/2014 9:38:29 AM PDT by dfwgator
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NATO failed miserably in Afghanistan. What makes you think that it would do any better against the Russians?

In their current state, I don't. But Europe has the most to lose from Putin's aggressions. If Europe won't defend themselves they why should we spend our money to do it for them?

48 posted on 03/18/2014 9:42:52 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: dfwgator

It is interesting times we live in.
I would “enjoy” following this if this was happening somewhere else, not in Ukraine.


49 posted on 03/18/2014 9:58:46 AM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: lodi90
Is a shooting war with Russia in a NATO country also “none of our business”

Wake me when it gets to that point. Putin isn't that stupid.

50 posted on 03/18/2014 10:00:56 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SoConPubbie

I like this guy but this nonsense has to stop.


51 posted on 03/18/2014 10:13:11 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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So we can afford this program? If I were Putin, I`d say go for it and by the way, we`re rethinking every treaty we`ve ever signed with you. From nuclear proliferation to arming space with orbital nuclear weapons platforms. Hell, for that matter renouncing the bioweapons accord and rebuilding Dr. Alibek`s Biopreparat. Are these idiots trying to destroy humanity?
52 posted on 03/18/2014 10:28:47 AM PDT by nomad
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To: lodi90

Then maybe they need to stop poking the bear?


53 posted on 03/18/2014 10:30:21 AM PDT by nomad
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To: nomad

You are not putin. Neither an I. Neither of us is Cruz, either. We are operating on a completely different paradigm than either of them. We are both at a severe disadvantage.

That said, the same could be said of us when Obama makes a decision. But, then, he has a track record that exposes all we need to know.


54 posted on 03/18/2014 10:36:03 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: lodi90

Do you want to go to war with Russia over a vote taken to secede in Crimea?


55 posted on 03/18/2014 12:44:27 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: Timber Rattler

re: “Well, I think that there is broad misunderstanding of what Putin is about and what he is up to.”

But, that is the problem. We don’t know exactly what he is up to.

If we look weak, it is bad for everyone. We look and act weak. We are weakened. A response to Putin is probably going to be too little, too late whatever we do.

If it were just Ukraine, that’s one thing, but there are a lot of bad people out there who have just seen demonstrated that we are a paper tiger. We are no longer the dominant power in the world. That vacuum will be filled by someone.


56 posted on 03/18/2014 1:17:20 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: cuban leaf

bkmk


57 posted on 03/19/2014 9:53:27 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: SoConPubbie

How does this play in Peoria?


58 posted on 03/19/2014 10:00:50 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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