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What Pilots Think About The Crazy New Theory That The Missing Malaysia Jet Used Another Jet To Hide
Business Insider ^ | 3-17-2014 | Alex Davies

Posted on 03/17/2014 1:37:17 PM PDT by blam

What Pilots Think About The Crazy New Theory That The Missing Malaysia Jet Used Another Jet To Hide

Alex Davies
March 17, 2014

Not surprisingly, the disappearance of Malaysia Flight 370 with 239 people on board more than a week ago has led some people to come up with very interesting theories about what might have happened.

On his Tumblr, self-identified hobby pilot and aviation enthusiast Keith Ledgerwood put forward the most elaborate and interesting suggestion we've heard yet.

He argues the 777 could have flown over India and Pakistan, avoiding military radar detection by turning off its communications systems and following a Singapore Airlines 777 so closely the two aircraft "would have shown up as one single blip on the radar."

In the post, Ledgerwood established that the Singapore Airlines flight was in the area.

The collision avoidance systems installed on all modern airliners operate using the transponder, which someone on the Malaysia flight could have turned off. So the Singapore crew wouldn't have detected a plane on their tail, Ledgerwood speculates.

"Once MH370 had cleared the volatile airspaces and was safe from being detected by military radar sites in India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan," Ledgerwood writes, "it would have been free to break off from the shadow of SIA68 and could have then flown a path to it’s final landing site."

We asked Michael G. Fortune, a retired pilot who now works as an aviation consultant and expert witness, if that would be possible. After a lengthy pause, he gave us a skeptical "maybe." It would depend on what kind of radar equipment the Singapore 777 had on board, he said, and would require some serious aviation skill to find and stay behind the plane.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airplane; conspiracytheory; hijack; iran; malaysia; mh370; waronterror
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To: Political Junkie Too

It’s pretty obvious that info is being highly controlled. Not a lot of info is out there about the XRAY machine supposedly malfunctioning and irregularities with the Cargo.

I suspect this is some kind of Spy V Spy - Country V Country kind of shenanigans going on...

And what a coincidence that there is a connection between Freescale and the Spying Chinese Telecoms on board via the murder/suicided Freescale employee.

What a tangled web of deception


81 posted on 03/17/2014 3:06:25 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

It’s the twenty passengers. Were they taking material to he conference to demonstrate? Did they have the ability to high-jack the 777 systems while in flight from their laptops?


82 posted on 03/17/2014 3:06:27 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: blam

I think it’s a fascinating theory but I think it would require extraordinary skill and even more extraordinary luck to pull off.

On top of the skill of performing the shadowing maneuver, the Flight 370 pilot would also need to know the precise location, altitude, and heading of the Singapore Flight to make the rendezvous and assume the proper tailing position. He’d have to match speed, maintain position, and shadow the moves of his target without ever communicating with it, in the dark, with no known night-vision equipment to assist him.


83 posted on 03/17/2014 3:07:31 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: maggief

That only talks about the “big picture” and not the specifics of this particular incident.

And also, in reference to the discrepancy between the government and engine manufacturer - it was already reported that the data was not transmitted, but merely a connection made and then dropped - because - the airline did not subscribe to that service. So one could say both - that the plane did communicate and the plane did not communicate — depending on whether you’re talking about the “handshake” or the “data”.


84 posted on 03/17/2014 3:07:39 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: LS

Buddy of mine bought a cell phone jammer off the net for next to nothing a few years ago. He liked turning it on in crowded places under his coat to watch everyone stop and stare at their phone at the same time, or when people were talking too loud.

I this was a planned event I can’t believe someone didn’t think to bring one small enough to cover an area the size of an aircraft these days. This is a small one for 170 bucks.

http://www.cellphonejammersale.org/2013-3g-cell-phone-jammer-blocker-p-24.html


85 posted on 03/17/2014 3:08:57 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: hoosiermama

We need more info on that unaccounted for container.

Someone theorized it could hold people. Not sure if that is possible with pressurization,etc.


86 posted on 03/17/2014 3:12:21 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Responsibility2nd

Even when I saw it the first time, I thought, “No way. Vertical stabilizers would have tangled with each other or the other’s airframe first.”


87 posted on 03/17/2014 3:12:25 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: blam

And if this is what happened - the ONLY route that makes sense is the “northern route”.


88 posted on 03/17/2014 3:12:42 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: skams19

That might be reasonable to do for submarine captains during the Cold War - but not for passenger airline captains ... :-) ...


89 posted on 03/17/2014 3:14:45 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: RummyChick

Yeah ... that plane ...

It hasn’t crashed into any big city yet.


90 posted on 03/17/2014 3:17:25 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: LS

Or the cell phones, that, over land, would have been at some point operable.
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If the passengers were passed out/dead the cell phones would still yield good data ,, all you need is one to have a pending outbound text message,, it’ll go out the minute you’re in tower range.


91 posted on 03/17/2014 3:20:28 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Obama_Is_A_Feminist

It would be a lot more difficult to maintain the secrecy on that wide of a conspiracy.


92 posted on 03/17/2014 3:22:28 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Robert Warren Linville
Remember the La Guardia Aircraft Crash that ended up in a neighborhood for taking off to quickly after another planes Wake. An Airbus I think.

If it's the one I remember, that was just a few days, maybe a week, after 9/11?

93 posted on 03/17/2014 3:24:53 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Neidermeyer

Yep, I bet they’re checking each Pilot’s E-Mail accounts for activity!

If there’s E-Mail/Text activity, they’re alive!!

...AND if they know that, perhaps they’re trying to find the Pilots & Airplane!!


94 posted on 03/17/2014 3:26:39 PM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: Mr. K

It’s a pressurized cabin. You can see planes flying at that altitude around the US on these “plane apps” that they have for the iPhone.


95 posted on 03/17/2014 3:26:54 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: The Working Man; Blueman
Flying in formation is a military skill, If the pilot or co-pilot were former military I could see it happening.

Several things point to a military person being in the cockpit. Someone 'trained' by Americans - maybe from Saudi Arabia? A Saudi - flying as a courtesy - sitting in the jump seat for free and not listed as a passenger?

96 posted on 03/17/2014 3:27:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (From a bellwether to an "oh-whateverrrr" in less than a single news cycle. -freeper Fightin Whitey)
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To: blam
Nothing personal but


97 posted on 03/17/2014 3:28:49 PM PDT by McGruff (They say the first casualty of war is truth)
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To: LS

Not at that altitude ...


98 posted on 03/17/2014 3:29:55 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: blam

Clip from the movie, “Miami Vice.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0NnhsJLeFQ


99 posted on 03/17/2014 3:30:46 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Flying With Fish ‏@flyingwithfish 56m .@Donnajcherold I have been told by @FG_STrim that the “stealth” theory for #MH370 is not possible and is the expert I listen to on this.
100 posted on 03/17/2014 3:35:23 PM PDT by RummyChick
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