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To: LS; Ohioan; Spaulding; GOPJ; Marcella; RitaOK; patriot08; GonzoGOP; Red in Blue PA; ml/nj; ...
No, I don’t believe that. I still have seen no evidence that any election recently was stolen. Fraud may have padded some totals, but until conservatives get off this notion that every loss is due to fraud, they’ll never win again.

Never said that every loss is due to fraud. But clearly there were at least a few, which is a few too many. When you have multiple precincts in Philadelphia and Cleveland, for example, reporting ZERO votes for Romney in the last presidential election (never mind that Romney to some degree ran as a RINO), there is direct evidence of fraud in vote counting. Even in predominantly black precincts, there are some anti-Obama voters. There are shutouts in baseball and football, but there are no shutouts in electoral politics this side of the Soviet Union. Don't know how Pennsylvania and Ohio would have gone if the elections there were reasonably honest, but they obviously weren't.

Look at Coleman vs. Franken in Minnesota and the phony recount - conducted under the auspices of a Democrat secretary of state - which flipped a Coleman win into a Franken win.

Look also at the House race between incumbent Bob Dornan (definitely a conservative Republican) and Loretta Sanchez in southern California over a decade ago. There was evidence there of massive voting by aliens and fictitious relatives, enough to tip the election to Sanchez.

In the last presidential election, I followed state-by-state polling (by reputable pollsters with pretty good track records) in the presidential race closely, to just before election day. About the only ways to account statistically for Obama's consistent outperforming of poll estimates in all the swing states would be fraud and cheating - which goes beyond the measurement capabilities of the best pollsters - and/or flawed polling techniques. Given the history of these pollsters, it is logical to think that the fraud and cheating had the greater impact on the discrepancies between the reported vote results and the pollsters' projections.

And some very strange anomaly occurred in that presidential race as well: never had a president been re-elected to a second term with fewer popular votes than in he received in his first election. Plus, in another rarity, the total presidential vote for 2012 was less than in 2008, even though the population definitely increased during that time. Which begs the question: did anti-Obama voters fail to show up, or were many Romney votes simply not counted - especially in swing states?

Despite all these clues to fraud and cheating going on, no one on "official" Republican ranks is making this much of an issue, the fear seeming to be that anyone who proposes measures to improve election procedure integrity will be tarred with the "R" word. Until Republicans get more aggressive on election integrity, it will be difficult to win back the White House and even the Senate this year.

86 posted on 03/18/2014 10:33:25 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
Voter fraud is a specialty of these kingpins of Chicago criminal politics. In fact, when the Gore/Bush recount began....they sent for the Chicago Vote Mfg Co headed by one of the infamous Daley's (later Obama's COS). They count and count til they find the votes they need----that's why the USSC stopped the crooked count.

Now let's examine campaign funding fraud. Obama liked to brag he was so popular and tech-savvy, he had raised a billion dollars for his rerelection.

Odd. This same tech-savvy team completely botched a simple healthcare.gov web site.......now blamed for the O/Care flop.

BTW, the "billion dollar candidate" then announced later in the same campain that he had run out of money----and to "borrow" bigtime in order to continue his campaign.

So where did all the money go? Did the Obama team file all the necessary FEC disclosure reports? Maybe the FEC reports (if any) falsified? (cackle)

88 posted on 03/18/2014 10:49:51 AM PDT by Liz
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To: justiceseeker93
There is certainly a vastly greater amount of evidence of election irregularities--including illegal voting & tactics of intimidation--on the part of Leftwing Democrats than on the part of Republicans. Nor is there any mystery as to the principal reason.

The basic pitch of the Left is based upon a Blame & Envy Cocktail. Those who ascribe to the egalitarian/collectivist fantasy that makes a grievance out of other people's success, and blames the successful for every failure, feel justified in cutting corners--in altering the rules, because they have bought the myth that the rules were made to keep them--or those with whom they identify--down.

Unless you confront this mindset, you are naively assuming that everyone has certain basic ideas of fairness in common. There is, in fact, a figurative ocean of difference in what different factions mean by "fairness."

William Flax

89 posted on 03/18/2014 10:52:35 AM PDT by Ohioan
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