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My best guess: pilot splashed it trying to fly low
1 posted on 03/16/2014 9:30:37 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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2 posted on 03/16/2014 9:31:12 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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No debris sighted.


3 posted on 03/16/2014 9:31:47 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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possibly causing those on board to be air sick and suffer from spatial disorientation.

Not sure anyone in the rear of the aircraft was alive. The only reason to go to 45,000 ft would be to decompress and oxygen starve those in the back.

6 posted on 03/16/2014 9:36:28 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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copious amounts of HE and EW can fully explain this. Not saying that’s what happened but it can explain it. There have been reports that new boeing airliners can be hacked mid air as well, as in, flight controls taken over externally.


10 posted on 03/16/2014 9:37:44 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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My best guess: pilot splashed it trying to fly low


Doubtfully.

He probably de pressurized the cabin when he climbed to 45,000 + feet to suffocate and kill the passengers and then flew the plane at low altitude to where ever it's being hidden until it's ready for whatever use the pirates intend to use it for

11 posted on 03/16/2014 9:38:52 PM PDT by rdcbn
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“Experts said flying a Boeing 777 in such a way would be dangerous, stressing the airframe and possibly causing those on board to be air sick and suffer from spatial disorientation.”

Why is the airframe stressed? At a low altitude, the cabin is barely pressurized.

Air sick? Depends on turbulence and visibility. Air sickness is usually the eye and the inner ear trying to resolve perceived discrepancies, leading to nausea.

Spatial disorientation? Turn on the autopilot.


12 posted on 03/16/2014 9:38:57 PM PDT by CFIIIMEIATP737
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Sure hope that Israel is watching out for commercial airliners intruding into their airspace. Seems like a convenient plan for Iran to deliver their not so advanced nuclear weapon.


13 posted on 03/16/2014 9:39:01 PM PDT by Deagle (ues)
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“Terrain masking” refers to an ability to position an aircraft so there is natural earth hiding it from the radio waves sent from the radar system. It is a technique mostly used in aerial combat where military pilots would fly at extremely low elevations upon normally hilly or mountainous terrain to “mask” their approach.

Has he got a chance?

18 posted on 03/16/2014 9:46:08 PM PDT by dr_lew
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Weird writing... it actually says it dropped 5,000 feet, not it dropped TO 5,000 feet. BIG difference.

And even then, terrain masking is a helluva lot lower than 5,000 feet!

And it took them a week to figure this out? Article says “experts” are “poring over” the data - as if you got a bunch of guys crouched over miles of ticker-tape in a smoke-filled room. Gimme a break.

None of these “expert explanations” adds up. Reminds me of all of the TWA 800 experts that starting sounding ridiculous. Maybe this will be the same way - silence all the questioners, come out with an “official” report, and jam it down the world’s throat. God knows there’s enough conscienceless shills that will back anything up for a price - or even a gold star and a pat on the head.


21 posted on 03/16/2014 9:47:42 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Article doesn’t match headline. Flying at 1,500 meters is very different from losing 1,500 meters.

Flying at 1,500 meters burns a lot of fuel, and even more getting back up to altitude.

If they flew at 1,500 meters for even 30 minutes, it shortens their range.

You avoid secondary radar by turning off the transponder.

You avoid primary radar with maneuvers.


28 posted on 03/16/2014 9:53:29 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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another reason to be flying low would be disposal of the deceased. It just wouldn’t to be caught with a recent mass grave on one’s hands.


52 posted on 03/16/2014 10:31:41 PM PDT by blueplum
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It didn’t do that without waypoints built into its electronics.

It did splash down in the Indian Ocean....


59 posted on 03/16/2014 11:02:32 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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One of the best scenes in latest Clancy book, about Russian invasion of Ukraine, is scene where recon helicopters fly so low that those watching them are not even sure what they are. One even turns in to a parking lot.


62 posted on 03/16/2014 11:18:03 PM PDT by firebrand
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I am willing tro take over world wide aviation safety.

My first change will be to remove the ability to turn off any flight tracking devices such as transponders.

And the installation of a separate self powered tracking unit in an area only accessible to crew on the ground.

My ideas are revolutionary and support my 5 million dollar a month salary demands.


66 posted on 03/17/2014 1:35:35 AM PDT by NoLibZone (The bad news: Hillary Clinton will be the next President. The Good news: Our principles are intact.)
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Watet landing, sink, no debris. But then why no radio or sos. To many questions.


67 posted on 03/17/2014 2:04:34 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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the New Straits Times said today the Boeing 777-200ER dropped 5,000 feet (1,500m) to evade commercial radar detection.

In an exclusive story, the government-backed paper said investigators analysing MH370’s flight data revealed that the 200-tonne, fully laden twinjet descended 1,500m or even lower to evade commercial (secondary) radar coverage

Notice that it says "dropped 5,000 feet", not "dropped TO 5000 feet",

and "descended 1,500 m", not "descended TO 1,500 m".

68 posted on 03/17/2014 3:28:22 AM PDT by wideminded
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He didn't splash it. This pilot was/is a master - one of the best in the world with 30 years of flying experience and even a flight simulator for the 777 in his home.

He prepared for this and executed it brilliantly.

He disabled all tracking for the plane, then put the lights out and wished the passengers 'good night'.

Then he depressurized the cabin and took it up to 45,000 feet to kill everyone on board. That's why their phones continued to ring for days in their purses and pockets.

Then he went under the radar to Pakistan where he handed this plane over to Al Qaeda and rogue elements in the Pakistan army.

The plane is being stripped and turned into a flying bomb right now.

The only quesions:
Will they put a Pakistani nuke on it or just regular explosives and dirty nuke material?
What is their target? Israel? Western Europe? The USA?

Israel has already said that they are on the lookout for any rogue 777s and are on full alert until this craft is found.
But suppose a Paki F-16 or Iranian F-15 joins up with this plane and they fly together under the radar and trail a scheduled 777 flight. When they are over water, the fighter jet shoots down the 777 full of passengers and the flying bomb 777 takes its place. Transponders are reset, the jet is already repainted...
They can fly into any city in the world and survive being challenged. Nobody would know.

The blast would make 9/11 look like a tea party.

This plane did not go in the water as there were systems on board that would be activated the minute it hit the water. The system would float to the surface and broadcast the plane's location. It is unlikely they disabled this system too. If they did, they would not have had to fly for 7 hours. We know this plane flew for 7 hours, so it was not even over water by then. It continued to 'ping' a satellite - but without revealing its location.

Al Qaeda has it.
This is far from over.

69 posted on 03/17/2014 3:51:02 AM PDT by Fear The People (When the government fears the people, you have LIBERTY.)
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Regarding my above scenario - they don't even need state support. A single rogue pilot in any fighter jet will do. Even an antique can shoot down a passenger jet.

They already found one rogue pilot to hijack his passenger jet and murder all on board.

The Pakistani military is thoroughly corrupted and in bed with Al Qaeda. They even hid Bin Laden at the gates of one of their bases for nearly a decade.

Most of their military are rogue elements.

70 posted on 03/17/2014 3:51:02 AM PDT by Fear The People (When the government fears the people, you have LIBERTY.)
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Experts said flying a Boeing 777 in such a way would be dangerous, stressing the airframe and possibly causing those on board to be air sick and suffer from spatial disorientation.

Pfftt. Experts?
71 posted on 03/17/2014 4:15:36 AM PDT by Tzfat
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There would of been debris and certain measures would of set off. I’m now certain this plane is being kept somewhere for nefarious reasons.


72 posted on 03/17/2014 4:20:08 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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