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To: lightman
"Everyone should carry a copy of the Constitution AND commit to memory the Bill of Rights."

Fourth Amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. (Emphasis added.)

First question to think about: Was the search unreasonable?

Second question to think about: If the answer to the first question was "yes", what would have been reasonable?

29 posted on 03/16/2014 8:07:44 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: KrisKrinkle
First question to think about: Was the search unreasonable?

Absolutely.

Being at the wrong place at the wrong time does not constitute reasonable suspicion much less probable cause.

Second question to think about: If the answer to the first question was "yes", what would have been reasonable?

A warrant based on probable cause.

34 posted on 03/16/2014 8:15:57 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: KrisKrinkle
what would have been reasonable?

An articulable fact that led to specific suspicions and possible arrest.

Possible bank robbers in every car on the road is a illusory argument designed to make criminals out of every citizen that operates a vehicle; not an adequate articulable fact in a free society.
50 posted on 03/16/2014 9:16:01 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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