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The Inside Story of How Oklahoma Beat the Constitutional Convention
The New American ^ | 16 March 2014 | Joe Wolverton, II, J.D.

Posted on 03/16/2014 5:13:58 PM PDT by VitacoreVision



Oklahomans committed to liberty united to defeat the the money spent by con-con supporters.
The Inside Story of How Oklahomans Beat the Con-Con

16 March 2014

“Whenever our affairs go obviously wrong, the good sense of the people will interpose and set them to rights.”
— Thomas Jefferson to David Humphreys, 1789

Jefferson would be proud of the constitutionally minded citizens of Oklahoma and their recent defeat of the forces pushing for a second constitutional convention.

As we reported last week, the Oklahoma State House of Representatives decided not to vote to apply for a constitutional convention (con-con) under the authority of Article V of the Constitution. Put simply, the votes needed to approve the con-con application were not there, and the project is now dead in Oklahoma, at least until next year's legislative session.

This is a crucial victory in the struggle to protect the Constitution and the fundamental liberties it protects from the possible ravages that could result from a second constitutional convention, or, as its supporters call it, a "convention of states."

Dr. Mike Ritze, a key member of the constitutionally minded bloc of the Oklahoma House of Representatives who successfully derailed the con-con locomotive in the Sooner State, told The New American that the fight was close and the hour was late, but in the end a majority of his colleagues decided “they did not want to open the Pandora’s box of a con-con.” Ritze supports state nullification of unconstitutional federal laws as the far safer approach for reining in the federal government.

While Ritze was one of the leaders of the victorious battle against the con-con, there were many devoted constitutionalists fighting with him and the full story of their successful campaign against the con-con deserves to be told.

In January, State Representative Gary Banz filed a resolution (HJR 1083) with the Oklahoma State Legislature asking the state to apply for an Article V convention.

Immediately after filing his call for a con-con, Banz scheduled several events in Oklahoma featuring appearances by several of the leading spokesmen of the Convention of the States (COS) movement. The goal of the meetings was to give the COS presenters time to convince audiences that an Article V Convention is the only hope for saving the Republic (see my article here for a refutation of that claim).

Not only were COS luminaries brought in from out of state to get the con-con resolution passed, but several key members of the delegation of state legislators who attended the recent Mt. Vernon Conference to lay the groundwork for a COS were also working to get Oklahoma on-board. (Information on the purpose of the Mt. Vernon Conference and the power behind it can be found here.)

As legislators, COS leaders, and influential members of the Mt. Vernon meeting traveled the state making their ultimately futile case, Oklahomans aware of the significant and potentially fatal threat to the Constitution posed by a con-con got busy exposing this fact to their fellow citizens.

Members of The John Birch Society, the Eagle Forum, and other constitutionalist organizations attended one of the COS presentations on January 26 at the American Legion Hall in Del City, Oklahoma. The incorrect information they were provided gave them the ammunition they needed to go on the offensive.

On February 4 and again on February 11, about 30 citizen activists descended on the state capitol in Oklahoma City, informing legislators of the risks associated with calling for an Article V convention of the states, including giving legislators historical examples of how such a convention could quickly exceed its mandate and cause irreparable harm to the Constitution. They also reminded their elected representatives of the undeniable fact that Congress doesn't recognize current restrictions on their power and would be unlikely to change their ways if new amendments were added.

Next, on February 18, the Oklahoma House Judiciary Committee met to vote on the con-con resolution. The measure passed narrowly, 8 to 7. The forces of liberty were starting to see the opposition weaken.

How were constituitonalists able to so successfully convince legislators to not call for an Article V convention, especially in light of so much money that was spent by the COS and their legislative allies? The inside story as told by a volunteer leader of the John Birch Society in Oklahoma who was instrumental in the victory:

For the next several weeks thousands of emails and calls from members of the John Birch Society in Oklahoma and like-minded friends went to Oklahoma State Representatives’ giving reasons why they should oppose HJR 1083. I even took a copy of the minutes from the 1787 Philadelphia Convention over to the house of the co-author of HJR 1083, Representative Lewis Moore, and showed him the recorded comments and votes surrounding the development of Article VII of our current constitution and the lengths they were willing to go even at the expense of what was previously committed to by the states. Representative Moore responded by removing his name as a co-author of HJR 1083 and agreed to vote against it.
That is truly an inspiring story and one that energize constitutionalists in other states currently embroiled in their own fight against an Article V convention!

As for Oklahoma, on March 11, after taking an informal poll of members of the state House of Representatives to measure the support for the con-con resolution, the Speaker of the House, Representative Jeff Hickman, informed Dr. Ritz that HJR 1083 would not be brought to the floor of the House for a vote.

Victory!

Although the news out of Oklahoma (and other states where the con-con is being defeated) is encouraging, the fight isn't over. As Thomas Jefferson also said, "The price of liberty is eternal vigilance."

Let's all be ready and willing to pay that price — by working to stop a con-con, and by insisting that our elected officeholders enforce the Constitution as opposed to changing it. In the case of state legislators, enforcing the Constitution against unconstitutional federal power grabs means nullification, the approach recommended by Oklahoma state Representative Mike Ritze among others.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: articlev; concon; conventionofstates; cos
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To: Baynative

Sounds like what happened here in Kitsap in 1999-2000. I worked hard collecting signatures to turn Kitsap into a Charter County and then I was the Vice Chair of the committee that formed after we passed the Freeholder or the first part of the process to encourage voting for the Charter.

The D’s were on board until the 11th hour when the majority conservative Freeholder’s would not insert language authorizing a County Ombudsman and would increase the commissioner districts into 5 council districts elected by an at-large vote of the entire county. The conservatives wanted the council members elect by district.

The Dims knew this would destroy their dependable 20,000+ liberal voting advantage they enjoy from Bainbridge Island...so the Charter died on election night.

We are still considering making a move towards a Charter as we do every 20 years or so or until peoples collective memory of the last attempt fades. This time, we are looking to do it via the commissioners...we just have to elect a “balance” of representation on the county commission first. Ed Wolfe is hopefully the first step in that direction. You know Ed don’t you?


21 posted on 03/16/2014 6:42:17 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: Howie66

No you don’t. That is a knee jerk reactionary statement and I know you can do better.


22 posted on 03/16/2014 6:43:26 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: DaveinOK54

You can start by not using the vulgar slang “con-con” to describe the initiative.


23 posted on 03/16/2014 6:45:16 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: VitacoreVision
Jefferson would be proud of the constitutionally minded citizens of Oklahoma and their recent defeat of the forces pushing for a second constitutional convention.

IIRC Jefferson actually wanted a new Constitutional Convention every 20 years or so in order for each new generation to set its own path.


24 posted on 03/16/2014 6:45:37 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: editor-surveyor
Do you have any rebuttals, or just insults?
Or should I just say ?
25 posted on 03/16/2014 6:46:28 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: bigfootbob

I didn’t, they did. I know it’s not a con-con......


26 posted on 03/16/2014 6:49:44 PM PDT by DaveinOK54 (Freedom is not Free and I'll never quit defending it.)
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To: VitacoreVision

The source of this piece of idiocy is out of his mind.


27 posted on 03/16/2014 6:52:02 PM PDT by ZULU (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: 5thGenTexan; AllAmericanGirl44; Amagi; Art in Idaho; Arthur Wildfire! March; Arthur McGowan; ...

Article V ping.


28 posted on 03/16/2014 7:11:16 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: VitacoreVision

These yobs are NOT constitutionalists. They are scum who are willing to allow DC to run ruff shod over the states and individuals. The Constitution actually lays out for us what we can do and these yahoos decided they didn’t like it so they tanked it. Great too bad you will never be able to brag to your grandchildren


29 posted on 03/16/2014 7:12:59 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Graybeard58

It is our very Constitution that gives the states and the citizens the right to call for an Article V convention..

DC IGNORES the Constitution and the legislative group is spineless. The One is a dictator. It is time to take our country back and this is a way to do it.

What is wrong with you?


30 posted on 03/16/2014 7:14:41 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Graybeard58
Our Constitution is fine the way it is. Problems arise only when it’s ignored.

Conservatives aren't the only people who have a wish list of constitutional amendments and changes.

It might not be a smart thing to open up a constitutional convention in a country where the majority of voters elected Barack Obama twice. and where voters elect and re-elect people like Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schuumer, Dick Durbin, Charlie Rangel and Sheila Jackson-Lee.

31 posted on 03/16/2014 7:25:15 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Iron Munro

Thank you...

It’s always nice to hear from ANOTHER constitutional scholar here on FR... PLEASE take 5 minutes and read ARTICLE V of the constitution. It’s an alternate method of proposing amendments to the Constitution controlled by state legislatures...

In a nutshell, ANY proposed amendments out of an Article V convention would have to have 38 states to ratify just like amendments proposed from Congress...

As always, if ANYONE here has ANY really good suggestions on curtailing what DC is doing, we are all ears...


32 posted on 03/16/2014 7:46:57 PM PDT by bfh333 (William Wallace was right! ~~~ FRRRREEEEEEEEEEEDOM ~~~)
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To: Nifster

Read #31, another reply to me and then ask yourself, “what’s wrong with me”.

Careful what you ask for.


33 posted on 03/16/2014 7:47:32 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (God is not the author of confusion. 1 Cor 13: 33)
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To: editor-surveyor

Your tagline is fantastic... I guess you are choosing to live that mantra...

Please, enlighten us with your wisdom... You’ve been here since 1998...


34 posted on 03/16/2014 7:52:26 PM PDT by bfh333 (William Wallace was right! ~~~ FRRRREEEEEEEEEEEDOM ~~~)
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To: VitacoreVision
It would really be great if political writers would stop trying to com 'n' c--that's communicate in code.

Apparently their presumption is that the rest of us--the people to whom they are trying to communicate--have no life other than politics, and so we should be up to date on their com 'n' c.

Or maybe I missed the proper interpretation of con con. Con con does mean center-of-colon constipation, doesn't it?
35 posted on 03/16/2014 7:56:49 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: VitacoreVision

I for one think that we need a convention unless someone has a plan that will restore the federal government to its rightful relationship with the States and the People without holding on.


36 posted on 03/16/2014 8:18:21 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: bfh333

Its always interesting to hear those that are batting goose eggs criticizing an org that is batting 1000 since 1958.

And then you want credit for wisecracks.

Go figger!
.


37 posted on 03/16/2014 8:22:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

So, you are a Bircher, eh?


38 posted on 03/16/2014 8:31:52 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

No, I’m not, but I have plenty of respect for their very enviable record of perfect prediction of where we are.


39 posted on 03/16/2014 8:40:26 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

So you think the founding fathers were wrong, eh?


40 posted on 03/16/2014 8:42:40 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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