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Ex-El Al expert: Iran likely involved in MH 370
The Times of Israel ^ | 16MAR2014 | Debra Kamin

Posted on 03/16/2014 3:43:42 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine

A former security chief for El Al believes that the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 points directly to Iran.

Isaac Yeffet, who served as head of global security for Israel’s national carrier in the 1980s and now works as an aviation security consultant in New Jersey, said investigators were correct in honing in on the two fake-passport carrying Iranian passengers on the doomed flight, and they have wasted valuable time by exploring other leads.

“What happened to this aircraft, nobody knows. My guess is based upon the stolen passports, and I believe Iran was involved,” he said. “They hijacked the aircraft and they landed it in a place that nobody can see or find it.”

In the immediate aftermath of the aircraft’s disappearance, which occurred last week during a standard night flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, Malaysian officials and the media were fixated on the story of two Iranians who had made it onto the plane with stolen passports. As the days wore on and the investigation uncovered new and confusing details, with officials admitting that the plane could have traveled for as long as seven hours without radio contact, and that its potential location could be anywhere from northern Kyrgyzstan to the southern Indian ocean, attention has shifted to the pilots and to far-flung conspiracy theories. This is a misstep, said Yeffet, and one that would not have happened in Israel.

“This would never have happened on an Israeli plane,” says Yeffet. “An El Al aircraft was hijacked for the first and last time in 1968. Since then, there has not been a single flight where security did not check every single name.”

However, it would have taken more than just a pair of Iranians with forged documents, Yeffet said, to pull off such an astonishing crime. “I can’t believe for a second that if these people planned to hijack the aircraft, it was just them,” he said. But based upon the tried-and-true Israeli intelligence strategy of profiling, the pilots, he said, are unlikely suspects.

“We are talking about a captain who is 53 years old, who has worked for Malaysia Airlines for 30 years, and suddenly he became a terrorist? He wanted to commit suicide? If he committed suicide, where is the debris?”

Adding that the captain in question, Zaharie Ahmad Shah, was known to be happily married and comfortably well-off, Yeffet said the profile simply does not fit. “From the United States to China to Japan, everybody is searching for this aircraft or piece of it. And there is no sign. So in my opinion, the aircraft was hijacked. And it was an excellent plan from the terrorists, to land in a place where they can hide the plane and no one can find it.”

Lt. Col. (Res) Eran Ramot, an IDF fighter pilot and the head of aviation research at Israel’s Fisher Institute for Air and Space Strategic Studies, however, drew other conclusions.

“It would be very complicated [for someone other than the pilot to have flown the plane],” Ramot said, based on the stunning revelations that the flight not only made a total U-turn from its planned route but also dipped in between radar points for hours and had all of its tracking systems manually turned off. “It takes somebody that knows how to operate an airplane like this.”

Like Yeffet, Ramot believes the plane was being intentionally flown to a secret location, and he went as far as to say he is holding out hope that the 239 passengers and crew who were on board are still alive.

“We don’t know any better yet,” he said. “One of my theories is that the airplane landed in Bangladesh. It could reach there, it’s very close to Afghanistan. It could have landed on airstrip there, and everybody on board is still alive. It could be done.”

Asked what would have happened if the plane – which went undetected for hours as it blipped across Malaysian radars – had entered Israeli airspace, Ramot said, “It would not go unnoticed, that’s for sure. Action would have been carried out, the least of which would have been an interception to escort it.”

That doesn’t mean that the Malaysian military wasn’t paying attention, he added. It’s simply that in Israel, the margin for taking chances is significantly reduced.

“It’s a matter of atmosphere,” he said. “Here, every blip on the screen is suspicious because that’s the way we live. That’s our daily program. I can’t imagine they pay as much attention, but if a blip runs wide or runs strange, I would expect them to notice.”

Pini Schiff, one of Israel’s top aviation security experts, said that if there is any comfort that Israelis can take from the story of MH 370, which is proving to be one of the most confounding aviation disasters of all time, it is that it could never happen to a plane flying out of Ben-Gurion International Airport.

“It simply wouldn’t happen at Ben Gurion,” he said. “The level of security at Ben Gurion and on all El Al planes is so high, there is nothing more they could do… Nations are not spending billions of dollars the way the Israeli government is protecting Israeli aviation, because the threat against Israeli aviation is so high. What we are doing in Ben Gurion is an operation that is not being done in any other airport in the world. Not in the United States, not in Britain, not in Germany, not anywhere.”

Like his colleagues, Schiff said that his guess is as good as anyone’s as to the fate of MH 370, but he also believes there’s a good possibility that it has been brought down, intact, on a hidden runway in some far-flung corner of the world.

“It will be found. It may take a month or a year, but eventually, it will be found,” he said. “This aircraft didn’t vanish. It exists somewhere in the world, and it will be found, probably in one piece.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iranophobia; malaysia; malaysiaair; mh370; waronterror
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To: Law is not justice but process
Another freeper reported this 777-200ER had the oxygen bottle option, thus no generators.

I go with the Islamics thinking passenger death = OK and more terror. Perhaps they thought, depending on how things went, they might want them as hostages, or as shields to keep themselves alive. I guess things were going swimmingly enough for them to decide they didn't need shields or ransom tokens.

HF

121 posted on 03/17/2014 8:22:34 AM PDT by holden
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To: GOPJ
If the plane landed somewhere, I'm pretty sure our spooks would want to see whose players are involved and how high up this would go, e.g., to the mullahocracy, AQ, or whomever. If a state is involved, it must be GAME ON!

I have every confidence many in the US know quite well what happened with this craft and are biding their time (if it's still intact and usable), or are checking over the debris field as we speak, if not.

HF

122 posted on 03/17/2014 8:28:25 AM PDT by holden
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> 7,700 nautical miles (14,300 km). In addition to breaking the eastbound great circle “distance without landing” record, the -200ER also holds the record for the longest ETOPS-related emergency flight diversion (177 minutes under one engine), on a United Airlines flight carrying 255 passengers on March 17, 2003, over the Pacific Ocean.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777#777-200ER

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777#Incidents_and_accidents


123 posted on 03/17/2014 8:36:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: fso301; Jack Hydrazine
I would think you couldn't get under the ocean surface fast enough before the ELT would send out a couple of bleeps that would be satellite-received. Normally, automation would weed out such "tests" before SAR notices go out, but the powers-that-be would have that info to review, nonetheless.

Or are my thoughts even more "all wet" than I think?

HF

124 posted on 03/17/2014 8:44:14 AM PDT by holden
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To: holden

I would have to agree with you, but keep in mind it also depends on where the satellites are in orbit around the Earth at the time of the crash.


125 posted on 03/17/2014 8:48:34 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Triple
Maybe no one flies a 777-200ER (elsewhere noted for its world record endurance) into Iran and some mullah decided that's the a/c "zey mustaf!"

HF

126 posted on 03/17/2014 8:50:04 AM PDT by holden
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To: holden
If a state is involved, it must be GAME ON! I have every confidence many in the US know quite well what happened with this craft and are biding their time (if it's still intact and usable), or are checking over the debris field as we speak, if not.

Logical points - I pray you're right.

127 posted on 03/17/2014 9:15:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (From a bellwether to an "oh-whateverrrr" in less than a single news cycle. -freeper Fightin Whitey)
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To: SunkenCiv

25.654,57.8


128 posted on 03/17/2014 11:50:55 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: ncfool

There was an article on the Drudgereport.com - stating that the family had moved the day before the plane incident.

It was there for several days; and it was in RED - which caused me to see it right away when I logged on.


129 posted on 03/17/2014 12:07:18 PM PDT by CyberAnt (MY AMERICA: "... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“... searching for family ...”

I agree .. great questions.

And .. when did they find out the family was gone ..?? What do neighbors say ..??

Plus, when they went to search the house of the pilot, nobody said a word publically about the family not being at the house.

And .. I heard this morning that several FBI agents have been involved everywhere since this event with the airplane was first exposed. So, if the FBI went with the authorities to the house of the pilot .. that could be why we suddenly found out the family was gone.


130 posted on 03/17/2014 12:13:58 PM PDT by CyberAnt (MY AMERICA: "... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: xp38

I suppose that could be true.


131 posted on 03/17/2014 12:21:59 PM PDT by CyberAnt (MY AMERICA: "... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: GOPJ

I think that plane could disappear from Iran, and Iran could plausibly deny involvement - just about as well as they could with anything that they were actually involved in doing.

The government / intel agencies would know the truth. The news media would act to suppress the truth because it is BOTH sides best interests.

(AS WAS DONE WITH TWA 800 - The CIA zoom climb video on TV and spontaneous center fuel tank explosion was the truth?)


132 posted on 03/17/2014 1:01:46 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I’m going to go with the theory a hijacking attempt occurred, the passengers fought back a la flight 93, and the hijackers crashed it into the ocean.


133 posted on 03/17/2014 1:19:10 PM PDT by Nachoman (Wisdom is learned, cynicism is earned.)
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To: Nachoman

A number of FReepers have expressed their opinion that the aircraft crashed, yet, no debris or other evidence of such.


134 posted on 03/17/2014 1:22:38 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Seems everyone wants to blame their enemy and get the USA to go to war. Sorry but we’re out of blood and treasure.


135 posted on 03/17/2014 1:37:53 PM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: ex-snook

Blame what enemy? I’m not interested in war.


136 posted on 03/17/2014 1:57:41 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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