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To: ek_hornbeck; Jim Robinson

“I’m quite socially conservative in my own life, but I think that politicians who thump on “social conservatism” and moral issues often sound like fools.”

IF you really think a “social/moral conservative” politician sounds like a “fool.” Then you ARE NOT a social/morale conservative and you should STOP calling yourself one. You are “ashamed” of what you claim you hold true.

The nonsense you spout is what I have been hearing on the abortion issue for years and it makes me sick to my stomach. I.E. “I am pesonally “pro-life” but I don’t think I should force this on others.” That is NOT being pro-life. Pro-life means you think abortion is MURDER...thus one cannot take a “well this only applies to me” attitude and be trully pro-life.

The same is true about homosexuality (and adultery for that matter). You cannot straddle a fench and say you are conservative. IF it is really wrong...then it is wrong for all. While we may want to use a little restraint and not become draconian. Taking a “let’s do what we can to discourage adultery and homosexuality.” One way to discourage adultery is to make the adulterer to come out badly in a divorce proceeding. A unfaithful spouse needs to pay dearly when a marriage dissolves as a result of this. In regards to homosexuality, we need to make it “uncomfortable” to be one. Definitely they should in no way be a “recognized and protected” group. They should NEVER be recognized by ANY level of government as a legitimate “couple.” It is NOT too late to reverse this downward slide on this issue.

IF you are NOT a social/moral conservative first, then the others “forms” on conservatism are useless. Get the social/morale issue right and the rest WILL fall into place.

I fully believe (know actually) that 95% of the fiscal problems of this country come from liberal views on the social/morale issues that result in bad fiscal policy.


223 posted on 03/17/2014 12:23:45 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
I believe that the contrary is true: moral responsibility will follow fiscal responsibility. If we don't provide subsidized healthcare, food stamps, or welfare to people, they will have the suffer to consequences of their own irresponsible and immoral actions.

A world where drug addicts or AIDS-infected homosexuals have to deal with the consequences of their decisions without a welfare state to bail them out will do much more to deal with these issues than the trillions we've wasted on the "war on drugs" and all the tub-thumping about gays on both sides of the aisle would ever accomplish.

IF you really think a “social/moral conservative” politician sounds like a “fool.” Then you ARE NOT a social/morale conservative and you should STOP calling yourself one. You are “ashamed” of what you claim you hold true.

There's a world of difference between finding something distasteful and wanting government, especially the Federal government, to pass laws outlawing it. I find most of the idiocy that's on TV nauseating. My solution to this problem is not to watch it, rather than to push for Federal laws curtailing free speech.

I am pesonally “pro-life” but I don’t think I should force this on others.” That is NOT being pro-life. Pro-life means you think abortion is MURDER...thus one cannot take a “well this only applies to me” attitude and be trully pro-life.

The abortion issue is not like the drug use or homosexuality issue. Laws against drug use or sodomy laws are there to protect people from themselves. I disagree with such laws, and they would be redundant in a world where people were financially responsible for their actions. Women who have abortions are in a different category because their actions harm another party. The right way to deal with this issue is to work to appoint SCOTUS justices who will overturn Roe v. Wade, which should have never passed regardless of what one feels about abortion because it violates the 10th amendment.

224 posted on 03/17/2014 12:59:39 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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