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To: Salvavida

If the 'good' ones don't get a pronto handle on the lunatics/cowards/thugs in their midst, it will likely not end well for many of them, regardless.

104 posted on 03/14/2014 5:01:01 PM PDT by tomkat (3%+1)
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To: tomkat; Cboldt; Orangedog; andyk; Balding_Eagle; Daffynition; tomcat
Let's talk about the english language, the laws of logic, and reality. There appears to be a big ass misunderstanding.

I'm a militia member in good standing with my local group. In fact, before my deployment to Afghanistan, I was the leader of a group in my state. We are in touch with our brothers in CT, and we have committed support to them should the need arise. Multiple groups from many states have.

I'm also a graduate of the Law of War course (DoD); and I can tell you there are many in uniform that don't understand this the issue because: they have never been educated. Think about that. Every soldier jacks his right hand in the air, taking an oath to defend the Constitution; having no idea what that means in terms of the 2nd Amendment: THEY LACK PRACTICAL APPLICATION. There is no course in any academy (officer or enlisted) in the military that touches on this. Zero. So it should not have been a surprise when civilians were disarmed during Hurricane Katrina.

I had a discussion with a JAG here on Free Republic, and this concept went straight over his head. A military lawyer couldn't understand that if there are zero hours dedicated to training: one should not expect that their exists a resident capability.

The same applies to police. Both military and police are "process-oriented" people. That's how they are trained. And if you fail to train them, then their interpretation is: it's not that important. If you do not inspect them, doubly so. In contrast, following orders is drilled into you. Guess which one wins out?

I'm also a private investigator, so yeah, I deal with cops every freaking day. I've spoken with cops about this issue 5 years ago when I first became a PI. There are plenty that will not follow a confiscation order. But that is a minority in my opinion, largely because of the lack of education as mentioned above. That is why they need to be exposed (like the current case with the CT cop), engaged by reason, systematically educated, or seeded by psyops.

So your whinny-ass charge that I want to make nice with bad cops is unfounded. I never said that.

By your group think, you don't believe engaging and education is a good or worthwhile course of action. Have you ever heard of Oath Keepers? How about Sheriff Mack and the Constitutional Sheriffs? Have you contributed and worked with these organizations? No? That is where the fight is, and it is on-going.

If you were to read the entire article, and do some research, you will find that engagement and education is EXACTLY what Mr. Cinque did. He engaged, and he educated. He didn't make nice or tuck his tail between his legs. He did it by engagement, and he did it masterfully. Now he has the police coming to him, asking for his terms for a way out. He is practicing Sun Tsu all over the place.

When you say "all", that means all. It doesn't mean "most" or 85%. I assumed you were using hyperbole because no one in their right mind would declare that all cops will take your guns. Really? My cousin is a cop. He is a conservative, constitutionally-minded cop, and will not take anyone's guns without cause. Your argument is refuted on its fallacious premise.

Anyone engaging law enforcement for the preservation of our constitutional rights will tell you that you do not know what you are talking about. Don't believe me? Go ahead, email Steve Rhodes over at Oath Keepers and try to walk that silly shit by him. Or Keith Broaders at Constitutional Sheriffs. Ask them if education and engagement is working, and if it is worthy of our time and effort.

And finally, the reality of CT's 2A issues isn't the cops. WE THE PEOPLE are responsible. This didn't happen overnight. This is a result of our collective apathy. We voted for people that shouldn't be in office. We didn't go to town hall meetings. We didn't serve on boards. We didn't write editorials or blogs. We didn't engage other people, and we didn't educate ourself. We didn't strap a .45 on our hip, and walk down Main Street as an exercise of our 2A right. There are a million things we didn't do for 50+ years. And now we are reaping what we sowed.

So before you start blaming others (evil cops), take a good look at yourselves. Then find a place in the fight, and start working. Keith Broaders tells me he needs help in vetting constitutional sheriffs in every county, of every state. Are you in? To the charge of

106 posted on 03/14/2014 8:05:30 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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