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Missing plane sent signals to satellite for hours
AP.org ^ | Mar 13, 7:57 PM EDT | By CHRIS BRUMMITT and JOAN LOWY

Posted on 03/13/2014 7:38:46 PM PDT by gooblah

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) -- A Malaysia Airlines plane sent signals to a satellite for four hours after the aircraft went missing, an indication that it was still flying for hundreds of miles or more, a U.S. official briefed on the search said Thursday.

Six days after the plane with 239 people aboard disappeared, Malaysian authorities expanded their search westward toward India, saying the aircraft may have flown for several hours after its last contact with the ground shortly after takeoff from Kuala Lumpur for Beijing.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; malaysia; mh370; waronterror
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To: cuspofcommonsense

I’ve worked in air cargo and flights do sometimes have VAL(uable) shipments in them including diamonds but it doesn’t happen very often. Many times it can be prototype parts for new airplanes that are in the design stage.

Nothing has been said as to what kind of cargo was loaded on to this flight.


221 posted on 03/14/2014 7:59:53 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: gooblah

Cover ups by any or all nations in the day of info/data transmission to satellites and maybe the internet are destroying the big lies.


222 posted on 03/14/2014 8:14:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: gaijin

And if they fill up at that airstrip, offload the passengers, and onload something nasty .... then they have another ~8k mile range from there....

Not. Good. At. All


223 posted on 03/14/2014 8:15:17 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Viennacon

[ I assume there is access to the ventilation system through avionics. You don’t think the pilots could smuggle gas masks and knockout gas grenades on board? That is what I’d do if I was trying to hijack it. ]

Night time flight = Most everyone asleep...
Disable the Cabin pressure sensor while at 30,000ft...
Slowly lower cabin pressure while wearing O2 masks in cockpit...
THEN release the knockout gas, most already O2 starved people would probably be killed by it...
Walk through and slowly slit the throats of those still alive but knocked out...
Shut off transponder(s)....
Lower altitude down to ground huggning levels and re-pressurize cabin...

No need to throw anyone over board....
All passengers and /or flight attendents dead...

Land plane in a airfiled somewhere....

Load plane up with EMP device (Iranian nuke)....
Re-register it and flight it to another airport somehwere that flies to USA....
Fly it over the USA, either east (between NYC and DC) or Over LA...
Detonate EMP device...

Digital 9/11.....


224 posted on 03/14/2014 8:19:15 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: 1curiousmind; LucyT; hoosiermama; maggief; null and void; Red Steel; SatinDoll

1curiousmind, thanks for the info!

All y’all, ping to the post by 1curiousmind


225 posted on 03/14/2014 8:19:20 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Smokin' Joe

[ You don’t have to wipe out the whole country. Just take down the eastern grid in late summer and let the riots do the rest... ]

An EMP from Iranian Nuke enchanced specifically for EMP (LOTS of Copper windings around the warhead) at an altitude of 50,000 ft or slightly more (a 777’s ceiling) right between DC and NYC would take a LOT of the east coast grid out.


226 posted on 03/14/2014 8:26:20 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: bigbob

And if they filled up at Andaman islands, they have another radius centered on that location.... would it put em in range of Israel ?


227 posted on 03/14/2014 8:26:49 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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Anyone have an AIS account or familiar with how to operate it?

I got an email saying that the USS Kidd had her AIS on when she was East of the peninsula. Supposedly she turned to head to the Indian Ocean accelerated to flank speed and turned he AIS off.

Can someone confirm this?

Also got an email that about every P-3 is in the air from all over the Pacific.


228 posted on 03/14/2014 8:27:38 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: japaneseghost

[ EMP attack.

Only the Russians have the balls to do that. ]

The russians could be working WITH the Jihadis, who better to take the blame for an EMP attack than those who WANT to take the BLAMe for such an Attack...


229 posted on 03/14/2014 8:27:47 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Red in Blue PA; ottbmare

“If it wasn’t a post or email by a Tea Party member, the NSA likely has no clue. They missed the Boston Bombers and that is after Russia gave them a direct hint.”

Add to the list, any NRA members, veterans, Freepers and tax payers poed at paying more taxes to the Rat Voters.

Also, they missed Putin’s move in the past few weeks.


230 posted on 03/14/2014 8:32:25 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: tahoeblue

” far easier and much less noticeable to just steal a private jet.”

You are right, of course.

Let’s see. If it was a suicide Jihadist, he would have just blown up the darn thing.

Why fly for five hours?

Maybe there are wealthy Chinese they want to ransom?


231 posted on 03/14/2014 8:32:39 AM PDT by garjog (Obama: making the world safe for Sharia.)
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To: virgil

Yep, that’s a huge amount of dough!

Part of the reason they would have hijacked it...


232 posted on 03/14/2014 8:32:40 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: mad_as_he$$

“USS Kidd ...

Can someone confirm this?”

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304185104579437573396580350


233 posted on 03/14/2014 8:35:44 AM PDT by garjog (Obama: making the world safe for Sharia.)
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To: GraceG

Pull something like that in July or August, knock out the AC, the lights, and alarm systems after the batteries croak, and mayhem would ensue.


234 posted on 03/14/2014 8:36:35 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: bigdaddy45

“And how did it get there with not enough fuel to take it that far?

As I understand that area is rotten with 100s of islands. All they need is a 4000 foot landing strip (according to FRs here). Then drop off the passengers and refuel.


235 posted on 03/14/2014 8:38:04 AM PDT by garjog (Obama: making the world safe for Sharia.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“This aircraft is going to be used in a major terrorist op against the US before the November 2014 elections in order to save the Dems’ butts.”

Miami in ruins might put a damper on the elections.

But, that would mean that the Dems are smart enough to organize an attack like this. Hmmm. They can’t even make a web site work.

On the other hand, Dems do seem capable at destroying things.


236 posted on 03/14/2014 8:42:46 AM PDT by garjog (Obama: making the world safe for Sharia.)
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To: garjog

Thanks. I was more curious about why she would of turned off the AIS(if true).


237 posted on 03/14/2014 8:53:47 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: JohnBovenmyer
Their is one important element you left out of this particular story. The hijacker turned off the cabin pressure and everyone was forced to breath using the emergency oxygen system. Had anyone not complied they would have died of asphyxiation. Someone on this thread asked how do you kill an entire plane of passengers...this is how.
238 posted on 03/14/2014 8:55:36 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: garjog
From that article: The final ping was sent from over water, at what one of these people called a normal cruising altitude. They added that it was unclear why the pings stopped. One of the people, an industry official, said it was possible that the system sending them had been disabled by someone on board.

Some observations that seem logical:

1. I doubt that the hijackers even knew about the component systems periodically automatically pinging satellites or if they did how to disable it. Because if they did know about it, then logically they would have disabled it hours earlier when they shut off the transponder.

2. Given the preceding point, the plane never made it beyond the flying radius from the last ping heard to when the next ping would have been heard. If the pings come every hour, then the plane crashed or landed within an hour of the last ping. This would eliminate possibilities such as flying on to Iran or Pakistan.

3. A plan to hijack a passenger airliner and land it somewhere in order to use it later as a weapon seems far too risky in terms of detection. They have to know that the moment authorities realize the plane has been hijacked in this post-9/11 environment there would be fighter jets scrambled after them from every nearby air force. Indeed, merely taking control of the airplane and immediately seeking to crash it into a target would be risky in terms of succeeding before being shot out of the sky or passengers storming the cockpit.

4. Given the preceding point, then hijackers taking control of the plane would then head directly for their target and try to crash it on their target as soon as possible, in order to minimize the time for air forces to intercept them.

5. Someone suggested that if they were going to crash it into a target, they would have done so on the Petronas towers in Kuala Lumpur. Huh? Why on earth would muzzie terrorists target a muzzie city?

6. The logical targets for muzzie terrorists crashing the plane would be India or a US base, in terms of their ideology and aims. However, the US base target would be quite risky in terms of being detected and shot down before impact.

7. So the most attractive target would be a major city in India. And, if the info in the press is accurate about the pings and the search zone, then it would appear that the plane was headed in the direction of India when the last satellite ping was detected.

8. To my mind, the most logical scenario is that the terrorists hijacked the plane and then headed for India to crash the plane as soon as possible, in order to accomplish this before being detected and shot down. And then one of two things happened: as they were approaching radar distance from India, the terrorists lowered the altitude to just over the water but ended up crashing into the sea or the passengers realized what was happening and stormed the cockpit, whereupon the terrorists crashed it into the sea.

239 posted on 03/14/2014 8:56:27 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: bigdaddy45

Put on a gas mask and gas the whole lot of them, while most are already asleep. Proceed with whatever it was they intended to do. Turn off transponders, fly at low level back to PETRONAS towers, etc.

Perhaps the mask fails for some reason, the pilots are incapacitated, and the plane then flies on autopilot until it runs out of fuel.


240 posted on 03/14/2014 9:00:19 AM PDT by ecomcon
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