Posted on 03/12/2014 2:33:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
As with most things, there are good and bad aspects of the Tea Party movement. And all the bad ones were on display March 6 in a speech by Ted Cruz to the Conservative Political Action Conference that replayed every silly thing ever said by conservatives and added some riffs of his own.
He began with a mocking refrain about "presidents" Bob Dole, John McCain and Mitt Romney (two of them veterans impaired by their trauma), chiding them for not being his kind of conservative. He also asked if we remembered their reigns.
Well, we do remember, and we remember one more that for some reason is never brought up in this context: the glorious tenure of "President" Barry M. Goldwater, Mr. Conservative, far more in-your-face than Ronald Reagan, who lost by far more than those other worthies. Goldwater lost in one of the great drubbings in history, lost by more than any Republican but Alfred M. Landon, and carried only his home state and five southern states for all the wrong reasons (opposing -- for a fairly innocent reason -- the Civil Rights Act of 1964.)
No one followed the Cruz playbook more than Goldwater, and no one has managed to lose so conclusively. He offered a choice, not an echo, and nobody took it. But how, if Cruz is so right, could this have happened? It can’t, which is why it is never brought up in this context. In his world, it doesn’t exist.
As the Goldwater debacle has been excised from history, so have the actual reasons why Dole, McCain and Romney all lost. Dole lost because the Bill Clinton he faced in 1996 was not the Clinton of 1993-94, but the Third Way Bill Clinton...
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President Cruz will start getting results in 2017.
There. I fixed it.
He will not be President in 2017. We cannot afford another one-term Senator. Actually he won’t even be a one-term, but a partical term. He is the least results oriented Senator in history. Governor Walker all the way unless you want to see…..
Presidential Hillary Clinton in 2017!!!!!!!
Yeah. It really failed miserably when the Democrats tried it in 2008 & 2012. They lost by a landslide...oh wait…
I didn’t vote for the one-term senator in 2008 or 2012 like you did. I am smarter than that and I won’t vote for one in 2016 either.
I can't believe how dumb the Republicans are to hold two one-term Senators up as our nominees. I guess Republicans love to lose.
I inferred that you meant that a one-term senator could not possibly win a presidential election.
I replied back:
Yeah. It really failed miserably when the Democrats tried it in 2008 & 2012. They lost by a landslide...oh wait…
Meaning that one such person did, in fact, win the presidential election. Your first supposition failed the reality test.
I did not say that I voted for him. Your second supposition failed also.
Agreed.
And, while Goldwater only received 39% of the popular vote, it was the most motivated 39% the GOP had received since Abraham Lincoln.
It was the 39% that led directly to Ronald Reagan's triumph in 1980 -- and would've led to his triumph in 1976, had the GOP establishment allowed it to happen.
Goldwater's followers (that would be us) changed the Republican party forever. And Rockefeller's followers have never understood why...
I know exactly what you said and you knew exactly what I meant. Yes we did have a one-term Senator win in 2008 and 2012 on the DEMOCRATIC side….your party apparently. We are Republicans if you hadn’t noticed. I don’t want a one-term disaster of a Senator as our Presidential nominee. We are going through that now with one. Why should we emulate the Democrats?
**yawn**
Great debate. No wonder we lose with such people as you who could not debate yourself out of a paper bag. You are prime reason that we cannot win a Presidential election. Sadly you are spreading your spittle all over.
The Weekly Standard - the magazine for Republicans who hate themselves for being Republican. Bill Kristol is their Master.
Pretty much.
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