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Confiscating files, laptop, cell phone and iPad is a pretty severe punishment in itself.
1 posted on 03/10/2014 8:59:22 AM PDT by marktwain
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They wanted the names of his clients so they can do midnight Ninja raids on the customers!


2 posted on 03/10/2014 9:01:45 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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3 posted on 03/10/2014 9:03:23 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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All they want is a copy of the sales records. If you purchased from them, now the Feds know you have a rifle.


4 posted on 03/10/2014 9:04:40 AM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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Much easier to go after the good guys....who have to pay for their own attorneys and stand under the sword of government to pursue their business, by virtue of selective licensing. Out of control. Disgusting.


6 posted on 03/10/2014 9:06:33 AM PDT by dasboot
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7 posted on 03/10/2014 9:07:06 AM PDT by Right Brother
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The lower receiver on an AR is legally considered to be ‘the gun’ and requires a serial number, NICS, and all the rest. Not sure what they are referring to regarding the “80 complete” claim.

Of course, even though they’re raiding his property “looking for illegal guns”, you can bet your ass he’ll get charged for anything and everything they can find. He better hope his building is up to code & regulations, and the inspection sticker on his car is still good.


8 posted on 03/10/2014 9:08:33 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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“If you like your 80% receiver, you can keep it.”
11 posted on 03/10/2014 9:10:06 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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So the ATF can run an operation designed to funnel thousands of firearms into the hands of Mexican drug cartels and there is no problem, but one company makes an incomplete receiver and they descend on him like a swarm of locusts?


12 posted on 03/10/2014 9:10:56 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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I hope this will lead to a year’s worth of orders thanks to the free advertising. I will be checking them out myself (or perhaps I shouldn’t bother given my bad luck with boating accidents).


13 posted on 03/10/2014 9:11:23 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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“”That means they can be legally sold to anyone, without background checks, without the necessity of a serial number,That means they can be legally sold to anyone, without background checks, without the necessity of a serial number,”

The lower receive, whether stripped or not is where the Serial number and background check is required.

The “80% complete” just means the trigger assembly and magazine components are not installed.


20 posted on 03/10/2014 9:20:28 AM PDT by CrappieLuck
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Did they find any Fast & Furious guns?


21 posted on 03/10/2014 9:21:16 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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They are harassing legitimate owners, hoping to put them out of business, or to find some technical infraction and roast their a$$e$.


22 posted on 03/10/2014 9:21:48 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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I would hope this would prompt the rest of the 80% manufacturers to flush their customer lists.

I'm guessing this was a trial raid to see what information could be gleaned.

31 posted on 03/10/2014 9:38:26 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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We are often remind that the Second Amendment is to protect us from tyranny. But it isn’t so.


32 posted on 03/10/2014 9:40:09 AM PDT by onedoug
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We have too many pond pirates with badges in America.


35 posted on 03/10/2014 9:44:19 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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I guess they have successfully disarmed 100% of the criminals and terrorists, so they have the time to do this...


46 posted on 03/10/2014 10:30:32 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Broi)
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80% polymer lowers, which EP produces, are much easier to finish than the normal aluminum lower. Polymer lowers are color marked to make the finishing process easier and can be done with a dremel. Here is a video which shows one such build.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxcSlOVeXlQ


50 posted on 03/10/2014 10:45:12 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededication to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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I have been following the 80% receiver story for several years. There have been 5 or 6 80% receiver manufacturers raided during that time.

I am not aware of any of them who have ended up in jail, but every one of them were broken financially with the cost of defending themselves, not to mention seizing all their inventory, freezing their bank accounts, etc. And yes, the BATF does get the sales records and has notified the people with “illegal” 80% receivers to turn them it. I wonder how many did.

Most of the 80% receiver manufacturers have exited the business in an agreement with the BATF to get the BATF off their back (I can only remember one that is still in business and he seems to be a stubborn cuss). I am thinking that is what the intent was all along.

They don’t have to send you to jail. All they have to do is break you financially to get what they want. With the full power of the Federal Government behind them, that is childs play.


52 posted on 03/10/2014 11:24:00 AM PDT by jim_trent
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http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/e2d2d17b77c74c23aed2310be8703075/CA—Homemade-Guns-Arrests

This might explain the purpose of the raid.


53 posted on 03/10/2014 11:28:14 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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Within days of registering my LLC as a machine shop two ATF goons stopped by because “they heard” I was making guns and wanted to look around. That was convenient, wasn’t it. I told them they need to present a warrant or leave immediately. They didn’t like that. I am sure they are working on it.

By the way I do not manufacture anything related to firearms.


55 posted on 03/10/2014 11:57:33 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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